Which CMS is the easiest to design for? SInce i don't really have experience with cms's, and i'm looking for a cms where i can use the design i made for a normal html/css based site

Pretty simple to pop the needed WordPress bits in to a site that has been built already. So long as the site was designed with expandability in mind.

Pretty simple to pop the needed WordPress bits in to a site that has been built already. So long as the site was designed with expandability in mind.

 

Can you explain me a bit ? I don't really understand what you mean with expandability? Like in what context / direction

Vertically. A CMS page can have any amount of content.

Alright i'll give wordpress a try.

Which CMS is the easiest to design for? SInce i don't really have experience with cms's, and i'm looking for a cms where i can use the design i made for a normal html/css based site

 

If you're not used to CMSs I would say the easiest path to go is a light CMS. One of those where you just have to add some classes to the tags, for instance. You have some good examples here http://www.cmscritic.com/top-10-simple-cms/

 

If you want something more, have a look at ProcessWire. This is a CMS that offers true flexibility. Where all the fields are custom and templates are designed entirely by you. You don't have to change anything on your html.

If you're not used to CMSs I would say the easiest path to go is a light CMS. One of those where you just have to add some classes to the tags, for instance. You have some good examples here http://www.cmscritic...-10-simple-cms/

 

If you want something more, have a look at ProcessWire. This is a CMS that offers true flexibility. Where all the fields are custom and templates are designed entirely by you. You don't have to change anything on your html.

 

I'll surely check them out. I have a client that wants cms (if i can manage to do it) and he asked me to use a facebook- timeline like design.

If you want something more, have a look at ProcessWire. This is a CMS that offers true flexibility. Where all the fields are custom and templates are designed entirely by you. You don't have to change anything on your html.

 

Disclosure time: are you in any way linked with ProcessWire?

If you go to processwire forums you will see that I'm quite active there. I was lucky to find this cms short after it became open source, when it was the effort of only one person, and I've been using it on all my websites since. After this, processwire gained a much bigger user base and has grown to be, In my opinion, the most flexible and complete open source cms. I already explained my insistence on another thread.

 

edit: English is not my mother language, and I had to translate "disclosure" to understand what you meant. Turns out that for something to be disclosed, it had to be hidden before... I'm not sure what to think of your words choice.

Edited October 11, 201213 yr by ocorreiododiogo

Topic split from parent thread.

edit: English is not my mother language, and I had to translate "disclosure" to understand what you meant. Turns out that for something to be disclosed, it had to be hidden before... I'm not sure what to think of your words choice.

 

Sorry, missed your edit. I meant "disclosure" in the media sense: disclosing the interests of the writer which may bear on the subject being written about.

I work with ExpressionEngine. This CMS takes a bit of work to get used to. But after that : the sky is the limit. Especially design wise. There aren't any restrictions on your designs. Any HTML/CSS page can be converted. It's a commercial CMS though, so you'll have to pay for a license to use it.

 

www.expressionengine.com

Edited October 23, 201213 yr by Brew

Which CMS is the easiest to design for? SInce i don't really have experience with cms's, and i'm looking for a cms where i can use the design i made for a normal html/css based site

 

Perch http://grabaperch.com/

 

Design however you want, static html or php, then sprinkle in some Perch magic; boom. CMS.

For what you are asking there is none easier or better than SimpleCMS!

Joomla. You can easily convert your html/css design to a Joomla template.

Edited October 26, 201213 yr by AnnobilsWebDesign

Joomla. You can easily convert your html/css design to a Joomla template.

 

Really? I build Joomla templates all day, every day, and while I love Joomla it is certainly not the easiest CMS to design with as having full control over the output is incredibly hard to achieve. Controlling the head output is nearly (but not entirely) impossible.

 

Also, you can't easily convert your html/css design to a *good* Joomla template. That takes time and skill.

 

If you come from a static HTML background to Joomla, WordPress, Drupal or similar there's quite a learning curve involved. This is why I recommended Perch...

Sorry, missed your edit. I meant "disclosure" in the media sense: disclosing the interests of the writer which may bear on the subject being written about.

 

Ok, I think I answered your question then.

 

Also, you can't easily convert your html/css design to a *good* Joomla template. That takes time and skill.

 

This is exactly where ProcessWire shines. Also wanted to say that PW was nominated in two categories for CMS Critic Awards, wish is quite surprising for a CMS with such a small user base.

Edited October 26, 201213 yr by ocorreiododiogo

Perch http://grabaperch.com/

 

Design however you want, static html or php, then sprinkle in some Perch magic; boom. CMS.

 

QFTW. Rachel and Drew have a very good product there which fills that niche particularly well.

thought I would add my bit hear from a Drupaler point of view. Drupal themes are built up of template files and css files. Drupal by default looks at it's default themes .info file. You can easily create your own custom style sheet for that specific theme by adding a line in the themes .info file to point to your custom css file. eg. stylesheets[all][] = custom/your_custom_style.css - where custom is the folder inside your theme directory.

 

You can of course change the template files to suit your needs too. Failing to find a theme that you wish to use you can also create your own theme. There are many ways of doing this as I guess there would be in other CMS's. You can theme Drupal with just a few files using only a css file and a .info file.

Edited October 26, 201213 yr by mylocaltrades

I do use Joomla. As for me seems it's quite flexible CMS.

 

I would ask topic related question, but in other way: is it a good form to use free open source CMS for creating commercial pages?

 

As for me I fill okay with this. I think it's much desirable if page has possibility to be modified from browser.

I know some good designers do not use CMS in projects if it's not necessary and customer does not ask for it.

Is it because of they don't want waste time on CMS integrating or it's because of CMS's are not so flexible to make a stunning design.

Wordpress

Wordpress

 

Really? You should try and create a design in static html and css. It's much easier.

Really? You should try and create a design in static html and css. It's much easier.

 

Where i do agree, the title of the thread is 'Which CMS...".

There are a few CMS that allow you to design everything in static html and then add the 'CMS-i-ness' afterward. Perch and Expression Engine spring to mind, though I am certain there are others.

Wait are you saying people can rent your portfolio and pass it off as their own

Really? You should try and create a design in static html and css. It's much easier.

 

Deary , if u learn wordpress , it will be easy to use :-D and static pages are not considered as a CMS

 

There are a few CMS that allow you to design everything in static html and then add the 'CMS-i-ness' afterward. Perch and Expression Engine spring to mind, though I am certain there are others.

 

Wordpress is so Flexible and u can almost do anything with it, the only problem of wordpress is it uses a lot of resources in some cases , and this problem will be solved with some techniques so i believe wordpress is the best CMS

Deary , if u learn wordpress , it will be easy to use :-D and static pages are not considered as a CMS

 

Wordpress is so Flexible and u can almost do anything with it, the only problem of wordpress is it uses a lot of resources in some cases , and this problem will be solved with some techniques so i believe wordpress is the best CMS

 

Did you actually read any of my posts? I doesn't seem like it.

 

The OP's question was not 'which is the best CMS?', but 'Which is the easiest CMS for designing?'

 

If you believe that designing a site in Wordpress is easier than designing a site using for a CMS that allows you to use vanilla html and css, then you are doing something very wrong.

Did you actually read any of my posts? I doesn't seem like it.

 

The OP's question was not 'which is the best CMS?', but 'Which is the easiest CMS for designing?'

 

If you believe that designing a site in Wordpress is easier than designing a site using for a CMS that allows you to use vanilla html and css, then you are doing something very wrong.

 

To be fair, this is what i do with WP as well.

To be fair, this is what i do with WP as well.

 

You design your site pages using vanilla html/css and then throw in the required tags? Or are you just serving static pages with WP?? Don't you need to chop it all up to fit the required WP elements?

 

If you can design an entire page of a WP site with a single html page, then I have been doing it very wrong! Glad of any enlightenment you can provide.

Yup you can turn...

 

<html>
<head>
<title>Title here</title>
</head>
<body>
<h1>Blog title</h1>
<p>Blog content here</p>
</body>
</html>

 

to a WordPress like so...

 

 

<html>
<head>
<title><?php bloginfo('name'); ?></title>
<?php wp_head(); ?>
</head>
<body>
<?php while ( have_posts() ) : the_post(); ?>
<h1><?php the_title(); ?></h1>
<p><?php the_content(); ?></p>
<?php endwhile; ?>
<?php wp_footer(); ?>
</body>
</html>

 

Just pop in the needed bit's and bobs and you're ready to go.

Edited November 1, 201213 yr by MikeChipshop

I have used Wordpress & Joomla for years now. Wordpress imho is very easy to customise and manipulate for the averagely experienced designer. Joomla is a little harder personally and requires alot more experience although worth it in the end.

Yup you can turn...

 

<html>
<head>
<title>Title here</title>
</head>
<body>
<h1>Blog title</h1>
<p>Blog content here</p>
</body>
</html>

 

to a WordPress like so...

 

 

<html>
<head>
<title><?php bloginfo('name'); ?></title>
<?php wp_head(); ?>
</head>
<body>
<?php while ( have_posts() ) : the_post(); ?>
<h1><?php the_title(); ?></h1>
<p><?php the_content(); ?></p>
<?php endwhile; ?>
<?php wp_footer(); ?>
</body>
</html>

 

Just pop in the needed bit's and bobs and you're ready to go.

 

Yes, it's the elements you are calling in I was referring to, e.g. wp_head. This is what I mean by chopping up the page into distinct modules, rather than doing it all on one page. It's the same with most CMS and doing that correctly is where the learning curve is for most CMS I think.

Yes, it's the elements you are calling in I was referring to, e.g. wp_head. This is what I mean by chopping up the page into distinct modules, rather than doing it all on one page. It's the same with most CMS and doing that correctly is where the learning curve is for most CMS I think.

 

Eh? No, it's not what you think. It's not a separate template or anything, it's just a hook that needs to be placed before </head> and one before </body> that WP uses to attach functions to. All the above would be one file and only one file.

Eh? No, it's not what you think. It's not a separate template or anything, it's just a hook that needs to be placed before </head> and one before </body> that WP uses to attach functions to. All the above would be one file and only one file.

 

So, how would you modify the content of wp_head?

Eh? No, it's not what you think. It's not a separate template or anything, it's just a hook that needs to be placed before </head> and one before </body> that WP uses to attach functions to. All the above would be one file and only one file.

 

So, you don't use anything like comments.php or header.php or page.php? You just do it all in index.php??

 

I get the feeling I'm really missing something here....

So, you don't use anything like comments.php or header.php or page.php? You just do it all in index.php??

 

Well i do but we're talking about basic use here for basic users.

Personally i split the pages in to header.php, index.php, sidebar.php and footer.php. But the above basic example wouldn't need to.

The only thing i've missed out in the basic example is the style sheet file that would need to have the theme declaration at the top.

Seems to be some confusion here between get_header() which loads the header template and wp_head(), which is the hook WP uses to attach CSS, Javascript etc and is usually located in header.php.

From all type of CMS, I would recommend wordpress. The system is pretty much friendly. Good for people who are starting to learn about web designing. Same with the interface.

I've played with all the 'big players' in the CMS platform saga, but for me WordPress is by far head and shoulders above the rest.

 

There's literally nothing you cannot achieve using WP, and all my clients have been extremely satisfied at making the transition from a standard HTML website, to this platform.

 

Would I say is it the easiest? For newbies, yes probably so...even just for the sheer vast support system and amount of plugins WordPress has.

 

Each to their own though I suppose.

Did you actually read any of my posts? I doesn't seem like it.

 

The OP's question was not 'which is the best CMS?', but 'Which is the easiest CMS for designing?'

 

If you believe that designing a site in Wordpress is easier than designing a site using for a CMS that allows you to use vanilla html and css, then you are doing something very wrong.

well , the question is about a CMS not a Static Page YO

and when i Design a Template , i believe it is SO EASY to convert it to a Wordpress theme,coz wordpress is flexible and u can make anything out of it