Hi,

 

I'v been wondering, do any of you know a good rank to aim for in Alexa to be considered a "worthy" rank? Obviously top 10 would be amazing, but seriously, what do you think is a realistic ranking to have or at least a rank that indicates your on a good path?

 

DK.

i'd say 4 is a good starting place to aim for

i'd say 4 is a good starting place to aim for

 

Yes your site should be as big and popular as youtube

 

 

As for an indication your on a good path I have no idea as I never really look at Alexa

I think it depends on the type of site you have. Obviously your portfolio site won't be in the Top 10 but if you're developing a business startup site (YouTube, etc ) then you'll start tracking at 100,000. That's fairly respectable.

 

To give it a tiny bit of perspective, I know of a very popular site that was ranking between 30k-40k a few years ago, then MTV bought it and it went up to its current ranking of 9k. It's currently the most visited site of its genre... and it's still only 9k. Anyway, my point is, for even the most popular non-corporate sites, anything in the Top 50k is pretty awesome and I would consider anything above 10k all but unattainable.

 

It's also important to remember that you're competing with the entire world on this; at any given time, anywhere between 20-40% of the top sites are non-English sites (usually Chinese or Indian due to large populations with access to the Internet).

 

BTW, WDF is 157,738 (but has soared in the past 3 months).

Very interesting Expat! Thank you very much for the info.

 

So as WDF is a year old 157,738 isn't too bad I guess compared to the whole world?? Thanks for the insight, i'll keep an eye on the forums ranking in Alexa over time.

 

Cheers

Anything less than 100,000 is considered to be good on Alexa.

Woop!

 

WDF is now up to 146,570! 10k different than 2 weeks ago

 

Yes your site should be as big and popular as youtube

As for an indication your on a good path I have no idea as I never really look at Alexa

 

Sorry I thought she meant page rank!

Alexa rank is useless. Ratings are only recorded and influenced by users who have the Alexa toolbar/spyware installed on their machine and therefore it has no reflection on total usage.

 

If you want to influence Alexa rankings then simply install the toolbar, get your friends to install it, make sure you visit your site a few times a day and watch your Alexa ranking sore

I wouldn't say Alexa rankings are "useless" - it's a sample size, and not an altogether bad one. Like any survey it will have its flaws, but when you're surveying millions (as opposed to "you and a few friends" ) it begins to represent a general trend, particularly for the higher ranked sites (i.e. sites that your average Alexa/Internet user visits daily, like Google).

 

Even Google's algorithms - PageRank, search engine ranking, etc. - are a fairly relative definition of "usefulness" as defined by their own mathematicians. We've all seen Google screw-ups and it is possible to manipulate the results somewhat (e.g. Googlebombing "miserable failure") but for the most part the amount of reliable data coming in will offset the outliers.

 

IMHO YMMV

 

I found this interesting tidbit on the Alexa FAQ, for what it's worth:

 

The Alexa user base is only a sample of the Internet population, and sites with relatively low traffic will not be accurately ranked by Alexa due to the statistical limitations of the sample. Alexa's data come from a large sample of several million Alexa Toolbar users; however, this is not large enough to accurately determine the rankings of sites with fewer than roughly 1,000 total monthly visitors. Generally, Traffic Rankings of 100,000+ should be regarded as not reliable because the amount of data we receive is not statistically significant. Conversely, the more traffic a site receives (the closer it gets to the number 1 position), the more reliable its Traffic Ranking becomes.

From experience, many employers or corporations tend to go to alexa and search for sites that are popular. Their definition of popularity is having a hight alexa rank. I know one of the projects I was working for (a non-profit organization site) with a couple of other designers ended up doing really well and at top of alexa. It soon began to receive much funding from investors and did well. When we took a poll, some of the donors said that they saw the popularity through such sites as alexa.

 

Here is my breakdown of what I consider good alexa ranking.

Personal site: under 500,000

Community Site (ex. WDF): under 200,000

Big Corporation Sites: under 50,000

 

There are certain conditions, like if you took your website down for couple of months for renovation or something related, ALEXA does not wait for you to re-up your site, and thus the rank will go down. I am speaking from experience. I pulled my personal website down for a month or so and my Alexa rank went down by 7,325,829. Then again I started this website called MicroDiary, and within a month it gained an alexa rank of 2,000,000. Now its on 1,280,085.

There are certain conditions, like if you took your website down for couple of months for renovation or something related, ALEXA does not wait for you to re-up your site, and thus the rank will go down.

That is because Alexa is based on user-traffic and only that traffic which has alexa toolbar installed in their browsers. So theoretically speaking, i myself can single-handedly beat google in alexa if i just visit my site enough times.

I dont think that would work even theoretically speaking, lol

Looking at Google's Alexa rank, I don't think that there is enough time in the day for you to do that...

 

1 hour = 3600 seconds, so 24 hours = 86,400 seconds

 

Even with high speed internet, assuming you could visit three times every second, you could only give your site 259,200 hits in a day.

 

I'm pretty sure Google gets that in 5 minutes...

I'm pretty sure Google gets that in 5 minutes.

 

Remember that it only tracks those hits that have the Alexa toolbar installed though But yeah, beating something like Google would be practically impossible for a smaller site.

 

You can certainly influence the rankings to a surprising level though. Try it yourself, just install the toolbar and visit your own website a few times a day and watch your Alexa ranking go up.

 

It's obviously harder to influence the top sites in this way but you'll certainly notice a difference if the site is ranked lower than the 100'000 mark.

 

Yes, it's maybe not completely useless as something ranked number 100 is obviously going to be receiving a fair amount of traffic but comparing sites within a few thousand positions doesn't represent anything and even comparing a site ranked at 200k with one at 400k may not show a true reflection on the traffic they're receiving.

i can't understand alexa ranking i have a alexa ranked 78 domain name parked at sedo which should in theory earn me a fortune how come i only get thirty hits a day from it????,by the way this is not 78,000 but 78?????

i can't understand alexa ranking i have a alexa ranked 78 domain name parked at sedo which should in theory earn me a fortune how come i only get thirty hits a day from it????,by the way this is not 78,000 but 78?????

 

Mininova.org? It's a torrent site.

 

A quick scan of the Top 500 and I see a lot of established sites in the vicinity of 78 but nothing parked and/or new.

 

Did you get your ranking from Alexa.org?

no,sedo listed it with rank 78,actually just checked and it now says 61,i haven't checked with alexa

 

http://www.sedo.co.uk/search/details.php4?...&language=e

 

if you click on the check domain at the bottom it will show its current statistics

your alexa rank is 7,958

the stat given from sedo is wrong

Woop!

 

WDF is now up to 146,570! 10k different than 2 weeks ago

 

 

Wooooo

 

We are now ranked at 104,334 quite a nice increase!

nice!