As I don't know too much about all this can I ask if you think this is a good deal or not?

 

A reply I got from a company...

 

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I broke the site down into two parts:

 

1. Front End (that is design only) so that is just the layout, graphics and coding of all that into HTML. It does not include any PHP/MySQL based programming.

 

2. The Application (so thats the functionality for the front site that your users see and the CMS which you use to update your website).

 

The Front End (item 1) I indicated was £150 to £300 depending on how far you want to take it. So I take it you want the £150 option for that.

 

The site; in terms of the functionality is around £600 including the CMS.

 

The reason the functionality is £600 is because its all dynamic content (so you can update via the CMS). So all the content, news article entries, gallery entries and so on are stored in a database which is queried - which requires an application framework.

 

Strip away that and you would need to learn HTML to make updates and you would need to create new HTML pages and edit existing ones to add new articles, gallery items and so on into the site. Angelworks is a dynamic website so it has a CMS (you can tell by the way its using application scripts as opposed to pure HTML).

 

If you want to drop the CMS and dynamic site idea; you will push #1 up as we have to create HTML pages for all the content on the website that you want on launch. Then when you want to change or add anything new you will have to learn how to do it yourself or pay someone (us or another party) to update it for you; so your just spending money needlessly long term.

 

 

If you wanted the £150 design option your total price would be £750 as functionality is £600 on top. We can bring it down by reducing the functionality (so how much is dynamic content); my quote is based on an exact functional replica of Angelworks.

 

I have to ask in this instance what your realistic budget is? If you can name your budget I can evaluate what you can and cannot realistically do with your money. But I will say this; if your budget for the entire site is less than £400 you will struggle to get a developer to produce it; you will get part of the site (i.e. the front end) or a basic HTML site for that (no dynamic content and CMS) but no more.

 

You will find developers who will offer at less; but honestly; if you cannot afford £400 then I would advise you reconsider your position because if you pay peanuts you will get peanuts.

 

Whats your contact telephone number; I'll gladly call to discuss and try and match your budget but if its below £400 I'm not sure how I can help you. But please as a word of warning; if you cannot afford at least £400, don't do it; wait until you can afford it; because you will be disapointed with the result otherwise.

 

If you want something really cheap I can point you in the direction of some open source stuff but you will need some technical know-how to get by down that route.

 

Regards, TrackPrep

i think it sounds like a good deal really.. £750 for a CMS based website is not a bad price...

 

he sounds very nice, and honest, offering different types of the site depending on the budget

 

some people would just try to rip you off telling you to pay £750 or stick it...

750 is cheap a bit too cheap but still a deal.

Yea sounds really cheap to me, got any live examples of his work?

 

Also why is the reply signed with your user name? TrackPrep .co .uk looks to be a motor sport (prepping for a track) site.

I don't think the 'regards' bit was part of the designers email. I think that was just the OP ending his post.

Sounds pretty honest and reasonable from here. The designer in question appears to care that you end up with a product you are happy with, and that's more than can be said for many of those out there calling themselves web designers. Next step I would say is to take a look at some of his/her work and see what you think.

Thanks for the replys, that's what I wanted to hear.

 

Some examples can be seen here, www.fizixstudios.com which seem to be very good!

I don't think the 'regards' bit was part of the designers email. I think that was just the OP ending his post.

 

Well don't I look stupid I wish I could blame it on drinking alcohol but I've been dry for over a week now.

 

Thanks for the replys, that's what I wanted to hear.

 

Some examples can be seen here, www.fizixstudios.com which seem to be very good!

 

No links to live sites they've worked on. Contact only via email. (Don't be blinded by the lights; flash)

 

Looks ok, and for £750 seems a good deal so long as they provide the goods.

As I don't know too much about all this can I ask if you think this is a good deal or not?

 

A reply I got from a company...

 

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I broke the site down into two parts:

 

1. Front End (that is design only) so that is just the layout, graphics and coding of all that into HTML. It does not include any PHP/MySQL based programming.

 

2. The Application (so thats the functionality for the front site that your users see and the CMS which you use to update your website).

 

The Front End (item 1) I indicated was £150 to £300 depending on how far you want to take it. So I take it you want the £150 option for that.

 

The site; in terms of the functionality is around £600 including the CMS.

 

The reason the functionality is £600 is because its all dynamic content (so you can update via the CMS). So all the content, news article entries, gallery entries and so on are stored in a database which is queried - which requires an application framework.

 

Strip away that and you would need to learn HTML to make updates and you would need to create new HTML pages and edit existing ones to add new articles, gallery items and so on into the site. Angelworks is a dynamic website so it has a CMS (you can tell by the way its using application scripts as opposed to pure HTML).

 

If you want to drop the CMS and dynamic site idea; you will push #1 up as we have to create HTML pages for all the content on the website that you want on launch. Then when you want to change or add anything new you will have to learn how to do it yourself or pay someone (us or another party) to update it for you; so your just spending money needlessly long term.

 

 

If you wanted the £150 design option your total price would be £750 as functionality is £600 on top. We can bring it down by reducing the functionality (so how much is dynamic content); my quote is based on an exact functional replica of Angelworks.

 

I have to ask in this instance what your realistic budget is? If you can name your budget I can evaluate what you can and cannot realistically do with your money. But I will say this; if your budget for the entire site is less than £400 you will struggle to get a developer to produce it; you will get part of the site (i.e. the front end) or a basic HTML site for that (no dynamic content and CMS) but no more.

 

You will find developers who will offer at less; but honestly; if you cannot afford £400 then I would advise you reconsider your position because if you pay peanuts you will get peanuts.

 

Whats your contact telephone number; I'll gladly call to discuss and try and match your budget but if its below £400 I'm not sure how I can help you. But please as a word of warning; if you cannot afford at least £400, don't do it; wait until you can afford it; because you will be disapointed with the result otherwise.

 

If you want something really cheap I can point you in the direction of some open source stuff but you will need some technical know-how to get by down that route.

 

Regards, TrackPrep

 

I'd do it for cheaper than that!!

^^^ I wouldn't undersell yourself just to be the cheapest. Coming from a retail background I can assure you being the cheapest has many connotations associated with it and often people are happy paying premium prices (or normal, non discounted prices) for good service.

 

A mid-large company would add at least a 2 to the beginning of that price.

^^^ I wouldn't undersell yourself just to be the cheapest. Coming from a retail background I can assure you being the cheapest has many connotations associated with it and often people are happy paying premium prices (or normal, non discounted prices) for good service.

 

+1

 

Businesses aren't usually after cheapness (unless they're about to go bankrupt anyway!). They're after value, which isn't the same. It's their return on the investment that's important.*

 

 

*assuming it's run by people who know what they're doing.

Should I go for it then?

 

I've told the designer/builder I want a similar website to this www.angel-works.co.uk

750 is cheap a bit too cheap but still a deal.

 

Why say that? i've done a few sites for people and only charged like £500 for a site using CMS Made Simple. as my work load is just on design and creating the template. Then it's just a data entry thing.

 

I price depending on number of pages that i'll be creting and how much content is in the pages.

Yes, that sounds about right...

Just because a larger company will charge more for the job doesn't necessarily mean they will do a better job, or that the person offering this deal is going to do a bad job. If I were to take on a job like this I would probably ask for about the same money, and I know I would do a good job. So don't be put off just because other people say it's too cheap!

This post (and related questions) is like the Duracell bunny.

This post (and related questions) is like the Duracell bunny.

 

What? Pink and fluffy?