Hi ,

 

i hope this is self explanatory , the reason behind this is to make up where i personally stand (or might do in the future)

 

maybe we will get some interesting results , that benefit everybody

 

cheers

I chose both "code site manually from scratch" AND "make use of CMS's" because at the end of the day, it's what the client wants. Sometimes they want simple static pages, other times they want full-blown dynamic CMS powered sites.

I used the same two options. I always code from scratch THEN implement to a CMS if the client wants one...

I ticked both CMS and code manually. Basically I have my own framework which I use as a starting point/prototype which already has a CMS, any custom requirements are manually coded into the CMS. So essentially its a bit of both.

okay , interesting..

 

now i reckon that you guys most likely meant by coding from scratch then using CMS's something like , designing the front page manually which i'd expect to be in the token of banner/logo , menu , short introductory description , random images or flash animation ...etc

 

i'd probably assume , the menu would contain the obligatory "about" , "contact us" that sort of thing and then you've a button on the menu that would say something like either of "blog" , "forum", "book now", "catalogue" , "client area" which would basically be the intro link to the CMS powered part of the website..etc

 

please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong

 

I ticked both CMS and code manually. Basically I have my own framework which I use as a starting point/prototype which already has a CMS, any custom requirements are manually coded into the CMS. So essentially its a bit of both.

 

well one question specifically to you Jock,

is your cms publicly available as a commercial or perhaps open source solution or do you keep it for yourself?

 

if your response is the latter , then how do you include the CMS within the client's project without actually giving him your CMS software ? (assuming of course that the client gets a copy of the final work per email or something)

 

cheers

This is a massive can of worms for me.. I suppose, technically speaking its commercial software. Although at the moment I'm running a pretty mutant business model where I don't have a specific price for the base framework, but I charge an inflated hourly development rate which pays kinda pays for the system. My rationale behind that is what would take me 15 hours to build using my framework might take another freelancer 30 hours if they were to code it from scratch, arrogant but true.

 

Normally I would manage the clients hosting too (again at an inflated rate) so the software would generally stay on my server, which entitles them to ongoing support, software updates, etc. If someone wanted to take their site and host it themselves (as has been the case when I'm sub-contracted) then I'm not too bothered handing over the files (TBH I'd try and figure this out first and charge extra to recuperate the loss of hosting). I'm not worried about people making pirate copies as its pretty bespoke and there are more feature rich open source CMS available.

This is a massive can of worms for me.. I suppose, technically speaking its commercial software. Although at the moment I'm running a pretty mutant business model where I don't have a specific price for the base framework, but I charge an inflated hourly development rate which pays kinda pays for the system. My rationale behind that is what would take me 15 hours to build using my framework might take another freelancer 30 hours if they were to code it from scratch, arrogant but true.

 

Normally I would manage the clients hosting too (again at an inflated rate) so the software would generally stay on my server, which entitles them to ongoing support, software updates, etc. If someone wanted to take their site and host it themselves (as has been the case when I'm sub-contracted) then I'm not too bothered handing over the files (TBH I'd try and figure this out first and charge extra to recuperate the loss of hosting). I'm not worried about people making pirate copies as its pretty bespoke and there are more feature rich open source CMS available.

 

i see