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Lol! Love it. Like I said I've never quoted a project this big before. And clearly have undercharged the past smaller projects I've done (plus they were for family friends). And that is the sorta feeling I kept getting... 'Oh well 'such n such' was going to do it for me for free so...' And I've always then felt obliged to give them a really good price... which looking at it now wasn't just a really good price for them... but a pittance for something that is actually going to MAKE them money.

Lol. A very good point. I often don't think of it as a skilled profession purely cause it was born out of a hobby when I was 11.

@rallport - Thanks so much for the post, you make some very good points. I will make sure to be completely clear what I mean by SEO. I've also been speaking to the OH and he's given me access to some of the procedures/framework they use for making specs for clients. They do software development including some top end web work so it's very applicable to what I'm doing. Things like clearly stating how many revisions are allowable in the price and things like that. @Gibson - I'm definitely getting the idea that I'm underselling myself. I guess if I think of it in terms of 'Would this make a livable wage' that actually £600 for this project is quite low. It also made me question just how much the company I work for really makes on me for each project I complete for them! lol. I thought they always hired me out at an hourly rate but I'm seeing that actually they probably only charge hourly for anything additional to the main spec. I do like the job security vs freelance though so I wont be storming into my bosses office any time soon demanding a raise.

Only a beginner in the sense of working for myself on a freelance basis. Thanks for the feedback.

Like I said, normally I get my jobs through a company. I guess I'm probably charged out at much higher prices than I previously thought. As for SEO, it will just be onsite and a bit of back linking. Why shouldn't I mention it? Or is it just the way I said it?

Oh and just a thought, did it come with a CMS? Based on what you just said I'm figuring you're happy editing the html now... but before?

Thanks for the feedback. I was thinking that a flat fee probably was the best way to go but had been sorta basing it on those hourly rates so... £450 - £600 But I guess based on what you paid and the result, maybe it should be slightly more (than £600) to take into account the search function and SEO Plus the amount that the customer will save in just the first year from not having to pay commission...

Sorry that my first post is such a boring one But I've been asked to make a site very similar to this --> http://www.ms-estates.co.uk/to-let/ It's for a company with 30-50 odd houses for rent. They want a nice design, search function etc. I'm doing design and all the coding that goes with that and my OH is going to do the database + PHP. I'll probably end up doing a logo aswell. We've not had the proper spec meeting yet, but at that meeting I don't want to be over or under selling myself so any advice would be appreciated. I was thinking a flat rate of £15 p/h with an estimated 30-40hours work... Edit: Oh and I'm offering a full testing service and SEO which I do as standard but not sure it's worth mentioning. Normally I get my work through a company and I think they charge around £25 p/h for me but it means I don't have to negotiate my own deals.