EJayCee

Thankyou! Yeah, I agree. When I compare how much I know now to how much I knew a month ago, it's pretty amazing.

Well, first I should have made myself clearer... I actually am not testing the site on the iPhone, at the moment it's just on a computer though I will work on handheld media later on. This website is for a company creating applications for the iPhone. Sorry about that. Hm, well I've psuedo-fixed the problem. What I had to do was change the height of the navicon div to the correct height, and for some reason that meant it worked. Do background images not stretch out divs? I find it all rather confusing... Also, the style for the h2 didn't work. I would have thought that the style of * { margin: 0; padding: 0; } would have gotten rid of the h2 margins? I know it did that for the h3 and p tags. Thanks so much for your help!

Hah, thanks. yeah, it's unfortunate people don't get told about tables and suchlike from the start... I mean, if I'd have known that before, it would have saved me all the headache that working with tables and trying to sort through a congealed mass of code gave me. CSS was merely a thing to the side at first, just a little addition to the HTML that I thought I could do without... Didn't even know how to link to a style sheet, I just embedded them and even then I had but the barest understanding of how it all worked. . . . Does leaving the quote from the message I intend to reply to actually do anything..?

Thanks! ^^ Originally I'm from Vic, but moved to Tasmania a bit over six years back. Love the change. ^^

Thanks. Yes, I was jolted rather nastily out of using tables when I posted a question somewhere about some help I needed along with a bit of code, and someone sent me a snide reply about how behind the times I was for using tables. I'm grateful for it though, if they hadn't sent it I probably wouldn't have found out about tableless design for quiet a while later.

I'm designing a site for an iPhone application, which involves a navigation bar using this technique. I don't want to write down all the code involved, but basically the problem I have is that for some reason, after creating the navigation bar, the background of the navigation bar div took on exactly the same colour as the breadcrumb trail div, and nothing I do changes that. Also, even though I specified * { margin: 0; padding: 0; } at the very start of my CSS file, there is a slight gap between the header/breadcrumb div and the content. the basic code of the navigation bar is in the link above, so I won't paste it here, but here is the relevant CSS: #container { width: 650px; margin: 0 auto; } #content { background-image: url(../img/backimg.jpg); padding: 2em 2em 2em 2em; } #header { background-color: #707070; } #navbar { background-color: black; } #breadcrumbs { padding-left: 2em; background-color: white; } #navicon { width: 480px; margin: 0 auto; } and the start HTML: <div id="container"> <div id="header"> <img src="img/logo.png" alt="ibetman.com" /> <div id="navbar"> <div id="navicon"> <ul class="navmenu"> <li class="home"><a href="#" title="Home"><span class="displace">Home</span></a></li> <li class="apps"><a href="#" title="Applications"><span class="displace">Applications</span></a></li> <li class="about"><a href="#" title="About Us"><span class="displace">About Us</span></a></li> <li class="forum"><a href="#" title="Forums"><span class="displace">Forums</span></a></li> <li class="faq"><a href="#" title="FAQ"><span class="displace">FAQ</span></a></li> <li class="contact"><a href="#" title="Contact"><span class="displace">Contact Us</span></a></li> </ul> </div> </div> </div> <div id="breadcrumbs"> <h2><a href="#">Applications:</a> MultiBet</h2> </div>

Hi all! Yes, newb to the forum and newb (relatively) to web design. I've been learning for about... oh, four months? Something along those lines, anyway. Had to relearn quite a lot recently as the books and videos I'd been learning from were on using Dreamweaver CS3 (I still use it, but only as a code editor) and table-based design. So now I'm focusing on CSS, as I wish I'd been doing from the beginning. *sigh* I've designed two sites- neither of which I'm entirely happy with but I'll work on them- and am designing another now. Lets see, so this is an introduction forum? Well... I'm 15, name's Ellyn, and live in Australia. Hows that for an intro?