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Aren't all technology jobs just a bit childish?

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I've reached this stage where I just think ****** to all this crap that I wanted to do when I was young, I was at college last year and got so fed up with their mental age, it's like their 24-25, yet they have the mental age of a 14 year old, I loved college only because I was prescribed adderall for my ADD and I actually made friends, but thought my god I ****ing hate how childish this is. Next to every technology job they act like they could be in middle school, all this crap about good behavior, anyone with a bit of maturity can't stand it.

Now i'm just going to take a job in sales or literally anything or maybe even starting up self employed as an electrician, but don't want to be doing something tedious for the rest of my life so can see why a technology job is still worth pursuing.

I though electrical engineering would be full of people who were mature, like actual men, instead it's full of middle school kids, you would also think higher levels in education (above level 3) would be more mature than the previous levels, instead it was more like a drop in maturity, I guess that makes sense though, only childish people would continue with education knowing they wouldn't get paid well for it, it's a shame that higher levels are so immature - guess this is why the EE jobs to go tochina.

My plan now is just to get any job (like sales), develop all these skills I need to go up in the world, then come back to do what I want to do.

I get judged that i'm not passionate about this, not as much as they are, but I still want a job I at least enjoy for the rest of my life. You could be in sales your whole life and be miserable, good thing about this is it challenges you, is quite interesting etc. I'm gonna focus on getting the money behind me first.

 

These people that make out there not doing it for the money are full of crap or genuinely just pretty childish. There was on electrical engineer that was like this, the kids that were in electronics were childish af, like they had aspergers.

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14 hours ago, NullDrone said:

I've reached this stage where I just think ****** to all this crap that I wanted to do when I was young, I was at college last year and got so fed up with their mental age, it's like their 24-25, yet they have the mental age of a 14 year old, I loved college only because I was prescribed adderall for my ADD and I actually made friends, but thought my god I ****ing hate how childish this is. Next to every technology job they act like they could be in middle school, all this crap about good behavior, anyone with a bit of maturity can't stand it.

Now i'm just going to take a job in sales or literally anything or maybe even starting up self employed as an electrician, but don't want to be doing something tedious for the rest of my life so can see why a technology job is still worth pursuing.

I though electrical engineering would be full of people who were mature, like actual men, instead it's full of middle school kids, you would also think higher levels in education (above level 3) would be more mature than the previous levels, instead it was more like a drop in maturity, I guess that makes sense though, only childish people would continue with education knowing they wouldn't get paid well for it, it's a shame that higher levels are so immature - guess this is why the EE jobs to go tochina.

My plan now is just to get any job (like sales), develop all these skills I need to go up in the world, then come back to do what I want to do.

I get judged that i'm not passionate about this, not as much as they are, but I still want a job I at least enjoy for the rest of my life. You could be in sales your whole life and be miserable, good thing about this is it challenges you, is quite interesting etc. I'm gonna focus on getting the money behind me first.

 

These people that make out there not doing it for the money are full of crap or genuinely just pretty childish. There was on electrical engineer that was like this, the kids that were in electronics were childish af, like they had aspergers.

In the greatest respect this post sounds childish.
I love working in tech because I get the opportunity to work with some incredibly smart and intelligent people.  We get paid (very well) to solve problems that are continually different and so continually challenge us.
I've worked in sales and I can tell you the professionalism was practically non existent with salespeople using all kinds of sneaky tactics to hook people into buying things they didn't need.

If you don't find software development challenging then you are clearly doing something wrong.  Believe me if you came and worked at somewhere like Sky or the BBC you would be in for a rude awakening at just how difficult some of the technical challenges are.
Otherwise if this stuff was so straightforward you'd be getting paid £1-1.5k a day (I know some devs who get paid this and they are extremely talented) What you would study in college is a walk in the park compared to the real world.

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54 minutes ago, rbrtsmith said:

In the greatest respect this post sounds childish.
I love working in tech because I get the opportunity to work with some incredibly smart and intelligent people.  We get paid (very well) to solve problems that are continually different and so continually challenge us.
I've worked in sales and I can tell you the professionalism was practically non existent with salespeople using all kinds of sneaky tactics to hook people into buying things they didn't need.

If you don't find software development challenging then you are clearly doing something wrong.  Believe me if you came and worked at somewhere like Sky or the BBC you would be in for a rude awakening at just how difficult some of the technical challenges are.
Otherwise if this stuff was so straightforward you'd be getting paid £1-1.5k a day (I know some devs who get paid this and they are extremely talented) What you would study in college is a walk in the park compared to the real world.

I know it's challenging, I do enjoy a challenge. I'm just unsure of what to create/what to learn without any guidance of what direction I should be going in. (only reason I learnt what I did was because you guided me), I enjoyed it though.

But still I think i'd be up for the challenge more if I had the money behind me.

I'm probably gonna keep on doing this or start up self employed as an electrician, depends what I enjoy more. Only thing I find offputting about this is working in an office, if I were doing electrical work i'd be out all day (would prefer that). But yeah, i've found i've been put off by every job simply because of the people who worked in it, so hence why it'd be better for me to be self employed (i'm not a people person).

I look back and realize actually my depression all started when I changed path from an electrician to study electrical engineering, naturally anyone working inside is going to feel more depressed than working outside. That and the fact that all the good jobs in EE are out in china, most of the people at college were getting paid average salary anyway. (if they were being paid well and wasn't just doing the job to prove how smart they were, the courses would be full of people with maturity). Usually higher course are full of people who are smart but immature.

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4 hours ago, NullDrone said:

I know it's challenging, I do enjoy a challenge. I'm just unsure of what to create/what to learn without any guidance of what direction I should be going in. (only reason I learnt what I did was because you guided me), I enjoyed it though.

But still I think i'd be up for the challenge more if I had the money behind me.

I'm probably gonna keep on doing this or start up self employed as an electrician, depends what I enjoy more. Only thing I find offputting about this is working in an office, if I were doing electrical work i'd be out all day (would prefer that). But yeah, i've found i've been put off by every job simply because of the people who worked in it, so hence why it'd be better for me to be self employed (i'm not a people person).

I look back and realize actually my depression all started when I changed path from an electrician to study electrical engineering, naturally anyone working inside is going to feel more depressed than working outside. That and the fact that all the good jobs in EE are out in china, most of the people at college were getting paid average salary anyway. (if they were being paid well and wasn't just doing the job to prove how smart they were, the courses would be full of people with maturity). Usually higher course are full of people who are smart but immature.

I worked outside during my stint in Australia and yes working outside is great until it rains, or is cold - which is more often the case than not in the UK.  I'm personally quite smug here in my air conditioned office in a comfortable chair.  I don't fancy picking watermelons for hours at a time anymore.  That said I am getting more interested in property and can see myself doing side projects around renovations and would enjoy working outdoors on that - but only when the weather is good.

I'm not sure where money really comes into this as it's very cheap to get started in software development and if you get good at it and are able to market yourself well there's really good money to be earned.
If you have some issues working in a social environment then you'll have to work towards overcoming that.  It's not a problem with software development, you get people in all careers and being able to collaborate withe them is just as important in electrical engineering as it is in software development.  Obviously I'm in no position to give advice on that front (Socialising, depression etc) but maybe it'd be wise to seek out help from a professional in this area.

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On ‎6‎/‎18‎/‎2018 at 12:31 PM, rbrtsmith said:

I worked outside during my stint in Australia and yes working outside is great until it rains, or is cold - which is more often the case than not in the UK.  I'm personally quite smug here in my air conditioned office in a comfortable chair.  I don't fancy picking watermelons for hours at a time anymore.  That said I am getting more interested in property and can see myself doing side projects around renovations and would enjoy working outdoors on that - but only when the weather is good.

I'm not sure where money really comes into this as it's very cheap to get started in software development and if you get good at it and are able to market yourself well there's really good money to be earned.
If you have some issues working in a social environment then you'll have to work towards overcoming that.  It's not a problem with software development, you get people in all careers and being able to collaborate withe them is just as important in electrical engineering as it is in software development.  Obviously I'm in no position to give advice on that front (Socialising, depression etc) but maybe it'd be wise to seek out help from a professional in this area.

I overcame my social anxiety btw, my depression has definitely got better, but at the same time it's got worse, I want to get going on all this again but kind of think that it will take ages to get a job in so i'm going for sales job for now.

Is it alright if I have a chat with you about this? Whole reason I went back to college in 2016 was because I thought I could be waiting ages to get a web dev job - but every job I go for in this usually wants some skill that I don't have, and to be pretty good at this.

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