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Good news everyone!

 

The Web Designer Forum will be getting a long-overdue facelift soon.

 

We’ll be removing some of the less popular and monetised sections of the forum, including the classified ads, job ads and the market. The new-look site will be more mobile-friendly and have a modern, minimalist aesthetic.

 

Our aim is to bring the site back to its roots: a friendly area where like-minded individuals can help each other, get advice and receive constructive criticism.

 

We’ll be doing some tidying-up but most of the subforums will remain the same, as will most published posts. Your sign-in details will remain the same.

 

...and we need your help:

 

Is there anything you really don’t like?

 

The changes we’re making will be ongoing, so if you think we should get rid of something, let us know.

 

Do we need to add anything new?

 

Web design has changed a lot in the last 10 years - do you think we should add any subforums for new topics?

 

Design a logo competition

 

A new-look forum deserves a new logo, don’t you think? It’s been almost 4 years since our last one, so we’ll be asking the community to design a new one, and our sponsor is offering fabulous prize. More details soon!

 

Get involved!

 

A forum is only as good as its members, so if you want this forum to succeed, please post regularly (and reply to this thread)!

 

Any questions?

 

The changes should roll out before the end of the year, but we can’t commit to an exact date yet. We’ll update this thread once we know.

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Nice one.

 

Is there anything you really don’t like? Um, yes, a few things come to mind.

 

I hate the mobile version and the full version is not responsive, but that said I'd rather battle on zooming as I know where everything is. For me I live on the latest posts and recent topics, as generally they're fresh rather than digging in older threads by category. If you could move latest threads and latest posts to the top of the mobile home screen it would be much better, then all categories underneath?

 

Minimum post count for new members is annoying, but so is letting anyone open as many threads as they like. Not 100% sure on a the better way, maybe each can start up to three threads (introduction and first question) which would unlock to more when a member older than a certain date, or has over X posts replies? I think many established members would either reply or report based on the thread which I think would help out mods.

 

And finally some way of addressing old threads to be locked. Sure some are worth waking up but many, especially in the SEO section, are reviving way out of date ideas that should be put in a museum along with tables for layout.

 

Wow, feeling a little refreshed after this ... therapy ;)

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Make it work on a mobile.

 

Bigger darker fonts and a white background on posts.

 

Fix the 'quote' thing. It's very difficult to edit a quoted post - click to delete in the wrong place and the whole thing goes askew

 

Stop new members from posting links - should cut down on the spam.

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Who are you?

 

Maybe Ben has undergone gender reassignment?

Edited by NOCK

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Lol. No, I'm a replacement for Ben.

 

We'll be getting in touch with moderators/privileged soon by email.

 

Thanks for the feedback so far: I agree with pretty-much all of it!

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Microsoft Silverlight category should be deleted, that technology died a long time ago.

 

CSS, XHTML/HTML & JavaScript should probably be renamed to "Frontend" or at least remove XHTML, that's not a thing anymore.

 

Server Side (PHP, Databases, ASP.NET etc) could do with being renamed too, nobody uses ASP.NET anymore. I'd rename it to:

Server Side (Node, PHP, C#, Databases)

 

Flash, ActionScript & Ria should be removed, again all dead technologies.

 

These listings of out of date technologies won't be setting a good impression for web developers looking for a place to learn and collaborate.

We need better methods for keeping spammers out. I think status updates should only be open to members with x number of posts and their first status update should have to be approved by a moderator.

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Lol. No, I'm a replacement for Ben.

Welcome!

 

From my point of view, spam is by far the biggest issue we have on the site, and it has been increasing a lot lately. Part of the issue seems to be that we have threads about SEO, when very few people use them, apart from spammers. Even though it's controversial, I think we should consider removing them and focusing on design and development. If we have to, maybe rename it to something like "Digital Marketing" to allow for more up-to-date discussions like Google AMP and the broader topic of marketing yourself or a product.

 

Secondly the design could do with an total update, with a responsive layout. Many forums online now have a significantly better design, and it's tough to get new designers on board with something that looks dated. Something like this, or this look to be the better options out there.

 

Long term it would be great if we could move parts of the forum onto Github to let the community improve it.

 

 

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Part of the issue seems to be that we have threads about SEO, when very few people use them, apart from spammers. Even though it's controversial, I think we should consider removing them and focusing on design and development. If we have to, maybe rename it to something like "Digital Marketing" to allow for more up-to-date discussions like Google AMP and the broader topic of marketing yourself or a product.

 

 

I agree the section is abused, but in amongst the 'what is the BEST SEO?' tripe have been some real questions. The downside of the name is people with no clue about SEO are drawn to it looking for a quick fix or a backlink, despite the nofollow eh, irony. To me it's the same with the other sections, people wanting a 'copy and paste' solution, hawking after plugins they simply don't understand and are not willing to learn fundamental basics or even the concept of what the code is actually doing. How many people want a review but don't want to hear the feedback?

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How about creating a ‘how to’ section, that gets back to basics, this could cover the best standards of HTML, CSS, SEO.

 

So things such as steps on how to create a responsive menu, what is meant by mobile first, easy way of optimising images, best SEO techniques, etc. these articles could then be referred to or even point members to these articles.

 

Articles on the best editors that can be downloaded for free, maybe some tips on how to use them. Some of these Articles will need to be revisited over time to keep them current.

 

I know all this information is found via a Google search, but the point is that it is a way of getting the forum noticed and may attract new members to keep the forum alive.

 

Something else to consider is a pinned post that explains in simple terms of why the forum is better than a Facebook Group. Create a Facebook Page to advertise the forum along with a link.

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How about creating a ‘how to’ section, that gets back to basics, this could cover the best standards of HTML, CSS, SEO.

 

So things such as steps on how to create a responsive menu, what is meant by mobile first, easy way of optimising images, best SEO techniques, etc. these articles could then be referred to or even point members to these articles.

 

Articles on the best editors that can be downloaded for free, maybe some tips on how to use them. Some of these Articles will need to be revisited over time to keep them current.

 

I know all this information is found via a Google search, but the point is that it is a way of getting the forum noticed and may attract new members to keep the forum alive.

 

Something else to consider is a pinned post that explains in simple terms of why the forum is better than a Facebook Group. Create a Facebook Page to advertise the forum along with a link.

 

That's potentially a lot of content to create though, and it has to be kept up to date. We could possibly point people to a pinned post of what we consider to be top industry tutorials and articles though, maybe even learning paths for new developers to follow.

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I think the best bet would be for the Admin and Moderators to get together and workout what you would like to achieve with the Forum. What attracts new members to the Forum and why the members of the past are not posting anymore. Have a look at the bigger forums to get some ideas/inspiration from them.


Good quality up to date content is always king, provided you can find the answer you are after without wading through loads of posts of chit-chat. What are the 10 most things that people are asking for? These would be the articles/tutorials that you would create to start with and see if they help to answer those questions and help promote the Forum in a Google Search.


I have found in the past that running a Forum/Group is not an easy task, they can be very time-consuming depending on what you want to achieve, and you can’t please everyone even though you have the intention to.

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Problem is there's lots of different ways to create responsive menus and common UI elements. That in my opinion isn't a fundamental. Learning HTML, CSS and JavaScript fundamentals will enable you to create any kind of UI component without further help just by putting the jigsaw pieces together and using technologies, techniques that best serve your application.

JavaScript dedicated section would be good as that's pretty much the most important language / technology on the web today.

 

There are plenty of very good resources that a freely available so it wouldn't be worth the monumental effort that would be required to essentially reproduce them.

 

As has been mentioned a list of good resources (Not just free, most of the best resources are not free) would be helpful. Oh by the way the best editor out there is VSCode :D

Edited by rbrtsmith

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Part of the issue seems to be that we have threads about SEO

 

We need to auto replace "SEO" with "***" - that'll teach 'em!

 

Spam is a problem on every forum, always has been, but we keep on top of it quite well I reckon.

 

Apart from that I agree with what's already been mentioned:

  • New responsive IPB theme, give us a fresh look!
  • Forums reorganised as suggested

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Spam has mostly kept me away from here, to be honest, the past 6 or so months. It has felt like a waste of time bothering to wade through posts unless I recognize the user. So, I look forward to getting back amongst genuine people with genuine long-term web design aspirations, who understand the meaning of nofollow. Here's to the New Year just around the corner, and thanks for improving this appreciated and worthwhile resource.

Edited by Grant Barker

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We need to auto replace "SEO" with "***" - that'll teach 'em!

 

Spam is a problem on every forum, always has been, but we keep on top of it quite well I reckon.

 

Apart from that I agree with what's already been mentioned:

  • New responsive IPB theme, give us a fresh look!
  • Forums reorganised as suggested

 

 

We seem to have considerably more spam than other forums, and 99% of it is about SEO. I think we should at least look to see if we're doing everything we can on the registration and permissions side to catch spam, but also take an objective look at sections like the SEO one, seeing it even has any value, I personally don't think it does. Moderators do well on here, but all it takes is a day off and the place gets overrun.

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We seem to have considerably more spam than other forums, and 99% of it is about SEO. I think we should at least look to see if we're doing everything we can on the registration and permissions side to catch spam, but also take an objective look at sections like the SEO one, seeing it even has any value, I personally don't think it does. Moderators do well on here, but all it takes is a day off and the place gets overrun.

I agree, while an SEO section might deliver a small amount of value, it attracts such a large % of the spam and in turn moderators time, I'd argue it doesn't make it worthwhile. Those who want to talk serious SEO stuff should have the capacity to do so but that section should be named in such a way that it doesn't attract SPAM.

 

IMO SEO is mostly about valid markup and good content these days, the other stuff while it has an effect is nowhere near as important as it once was.

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IMO SEO is mostly about valid markup and good content these days, the other stuff while it has an effect is nowhere near as important as it once was.

 

Depends on what you want to rank for. If you want to rank for anything to do with pharma, insurance, auto, casinos, adult topics and products and celeb news you need to do a whole bunch of stuff.

 

However, bin the SEO forum - that's not what WDF is about. If you want SEO advice there are thousands of better places to go visit.

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Thanks for all your replies so far.

 

It's really good feedback and although much of it won't be in the first build of the 'new' forum - due tomorrow (hopefully!) - we'll start work on making the changes ASAP. Getting the new design out is the priority, and following that we'll begin the quick-fixes.

 

Feel free to continue to add anything you may think of.

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Stop new members from posting links - should cut down on the spam.

Isn't there a min of 25 posts required before a new member can post links?

 

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Also, perhaps we could have a new "Website performance and speed" sub forum?

 

And a new thread in Forum suggestions to keep track of things?

Edited by teodora

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Good news everyone!

 

The Web Designer Forum will be getting a long-overdue facelift soon.

 

We’ll be removing some of the less popular and monetised sections of the forum, including the classified ads, job ads and the market. The new-look site will be more mobile-friendly and have a modern, minimalist aesthetic.

 

Our aim is to bring the site back to its roots: a friendly area where like-minded individuals can help each other, get advice and receive constructive criticism.

 

We’ll be doing some tidying-up but most of the subforums will remain the same, as will most published posts. Your sign-in details will remain the same.

 

...and we need your help:

 

Is there anything you really don’t like?

 

The changes we’re making will be ongoing, so if you think we should get rid of something, let us know.

 

Do we need to add anything new?

 

Web design has changed a lot in the last 10 years - do you think we should add any subforums for new topics?

 

Design a logo competition

 

A new-look forum deserves a new logo, don’t you think? It’s been almost 4 years since our last one, so we’ll be asking the community to design a new one, and our sponsor is offering fabulous prize. More details soon!

 

Get involved!

 

A forum is only as good as its members, so if you want this forum to succeed, please post regularly (and reply to this thread)!

 

Any questions?

 

The changes should roll out before the end of the year, but we can’t commit to an exact date yet. We’ll update this thread once we know.

 

Did ben fully step down? or is he still apart of the forum but just in smaller ways ? also I must say I'm glad to see the classifieds section finally go.

Edited by webdesigner93

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20 hours ago, webdeveloper93 said:

 

Did ben fully step down? or is he still apart of the forum but just in smaller ways ? also I must say I'm glad to see the classifieds section finally go.

Yes, Ben stepped down fully.

I'm going to lock this thread now. We've taken note of these requests, but if you have further feedback, please post it here:

 

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