February 1, 200917 yr Hi, Thought I'd share this with you guys. If you ever wanted to do a simple one page website BUT make it look like something more, check this out... http://onepagewebsite.blogspot.com/ The blog is a simple walk-through and a good introduction to jquery. (which all web developers should know!) Hope you enjoy it. Cheers, WebCom Systems http://www.webcomsystems.biz
February 2, 200917 yr Sorry, but this is rubbish - and clearly a simple ploy for backlinks. Try running the webcomsystems page with JavaScript disabled (which is what the search engines will see). Now try to get to the other pages on the menu. Hmm..... great SEO - not.
February 2, 200917 yr http://nettuts.com/tutorials/javascript-aj...nt-with-jquery/ There's a better version, it works fine without js, however it's flawed, it lags on large amounts of content and generally, it starts to get irritating when your looking through a website. For small pockets of information it's good, for entire sites.... it's not viable in my opinion.
February 2, 200917 yr Author Sorry, but this is rubbish - and clearly a simple ploy for backlinks. Try running the webcomsystems page with JavaScript disabled (which is what the search engines will see). Now try to get to the other pages on the menu. Hmm..... great SEO - not. Well thanks Zigpress for your frank opinions! and No its not a simple ploy for backlinks, its an informative introduction to jquery. Maybe I didnt explain it properly. This is a website example for situations where your client doesnt want to pay too much and just wants a simple presence on the internet. A site like this can be set up in about an hour, so its a great product for a web design company to offer. Of course it doesnt suit all situations, but it serves a purpose. As for SEO, load up your index.html page with keywords and relevant descriptions.
February 2, 200917 yr Not particularly well executed and does the one thing that really really really annoys me about using javascript for the sake of javascript; it breaks the back button. If I've just seen something, click another link but want to go back to the previous page, I have to remember/find the link that took me there, rather than just doing the instinctive thing and hit the back button. Lets say I do like your site and want to link a certain page to your colleague, say your 'about' page, rather than the root of your site. I can't, because the URL doesn't change. If I do link to your about page, I get this: http://www.webcomsystems.biz/about.html SEO is not just about having keywords and descriptions. Once upon a time yes, but search engine spiders are more intelligent than that. Having good quality URLs is just as important as anything else, and your method completely scuppers any chance of your site being well indexed. If the spiders do find their way through to other pages, they will get indexed in the way I linked to above. In terms of saving clients money, I'm not sure of the logic there, as you still have to create extra pages for each bit of content. If you've got the site structure built anyway, theres no extra work at all in creating your site the usual way. There are better ways to do what you've tried to do I'm afraid. (As a sidenote, and just so you know, you're linking to the W3C Validator on your site, but your code is invalid)
February 2, 200917 yr Author Not particularly well executed and does the one thing that really really really annoys me about using javascript for the sake of javascript; it breaks the back button. If I've just seen something, click another link but want to go back to the previous page, I have to remember/find the link that took me there, rather than just doing the instinctive thing and hit the back button. Lets say I do like your site and want to link a certain page to your colleague, say your 'about' page, rather than the root of your site. I can't, because the URL doesn't change. If I do link to your about page, I get this: http://www.webcomsystems.biz/about.html There are better ways to do what you've tried to do I'm afraid. Go straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect £200. for a start, its not javascript for the sake of javascript! You might as well say that everything Google has done in the past 10 years is useless. Bet they're making more money than you!? Let's get one thing clear here. It's a simple one page site. Not content managed, Not high content. If I'm going to jail then I'll see you there.
February 2, 200917 yr for a start, its not javascript for the sake of javascript! What is the point of it then? What extra benefit is gained from using jQuery to load the content? All I can see is that it is calling another HTML page in with a fancy fade effect. You can do this without breaking the back button, breaking URLs, potentially ruining your SEO, or being useless for anyone with javascript disabled. If anything it does more to ruin the user experience than a standard site without any of the fancy crossfading (which doesn't work properly anyway as the content loads, then disappears, then fades in again). It's not a simple one page site (not sure where content management comes into it either). Its a simple one page site that has been made pointlessly over-complicated and less intuitive by the use of javascript just for the sake of it. Not sure how Google come into it, but I've not noticed any situation where they fade between pages just because they can, (and my employers are doing perfectly fine, thanks). It's nice that you've tried to make a tutorial and offer an idea for people, but the simple fact is that it's not a particularly great way of doing things, and if you post it on a forum full of web designers and developers you can't expect it to pass by without comment if thats the case.
February 2, 200917 yr Author Not sure how Google come into it, but I've not noticed any situation where they fade between pages just because they can, (and my employers are doing perfectly fine, thanks). Good luck.
February 2, 200917 yr So this is just a non-SEO-friendly multipage website that has restricted accessibility?
February 3, 200917 yr Well thanks Zigpress for your frank opinions! and No its not a simple ploy for backlinks, its an informative introduction to jquery. Maybe I didnt explain it properly. This is a website example for situations where your client doesnt want to pay too much and just wants a simple presence on the internet. A site like this can be set up in about an hour, so its a great product for a web design company to offer. Of course it doesnt suit all situations, but it serves a purpose. As for SEO, load up your index.html page with keywords and relevant descriptions. My pleasure - I find that frankness generally saves time. Fair point about your motivation not being backlinks. However... I really don't think it's a great product for a web design company to offer. Almost any other way of achieving a simple internet presence would be a better way of doing it. Your way is not SEO friendly (loading the index page with keywords is risky), is completely inaccessible (and that's unforgivable even if you ignore the other reasons), and to be honest, probably takes longer than doing it with a server-side include. If you consider the content of all the comments your post has provoked, you may understand my point of view better. jQuery is a fantastic tool when used appropriately (I'm a big fan) - but I don't think this is an appropriate use for it.
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