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#1 NOCK

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Posted 20 January 2016 - 09:09 AM

Hi guys,

 

So I normally hand code emails using Zurb Ink as my platform. This morning I received an email offering CoffeeCup's Responsive Email Designer at a discounted price:

 

http://www.mightydea...ws&refNL=awnews

 

The promo video makes it look quite good, but is it?

 

Whilst I have no problem with hand-coding, it can be a bit of a faff to get working across all email clients.

 

Opinions?



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 10:35 AM

The problem with all email designers is they only work if the recipient is happy to accept html, css, images and links.

 

I use Thunderbird and have images turned off by default. Same on my iPhone. This means your carefully designed email doesn't work they way you want it.

 

The very best emails are simple with the absolute minimum of styling and imagery. If you do this then it doesn't need to be responsive.



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 11:26 AM

Zurb are releasing V2 of their email framework, even V1 is pretty decent. I'd look at that instead http://zurb.com/arti...king-html-email. It handles cross browser issues for you. Alternatively, there are tonnes of well tested email templates on Github.

 

I remember CoffeeCup software from when I was around 14 or 15, I thought the company was dead to be honest.



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 11:52 AM

Alternatively, there are tonnes of well tested email templates on Github.

Indeed there are, and they all work wonderfully.

 

But unless the emal client is set up to receive and display your magnum opus in the style in which it was sent the whole thing can end in tears.

 

If all you are sending is a confirmation or a response to query do you really need a template?



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 01:10 PM

The problem with all email designers is they only work if the recipient is happy to accept html, css, images and links.

 

I use Thunderbird and have images turned off by default. Same on my iPhone. This means your carefully designed email doesn't work they way you want it.

 

The very best emails are simple with the absolute minimum of styling and imagery. If you do this then it doesn't need to be responsive.

 

Thanks for the lesson in Email Marketing... I'm well aware of the limitations. A carefully designed email will work regardless of images being turned on or off.

 

That said, I'm always surprised that people still turn them off by default, we're not on dial-up anymore, why bother?

 

I'll probably continue doing it the way that I've always done it, I just saw the software and it got me asking if there was a better way.



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 01:10 PM

If all you are sending is a confirmation or a response to query do you really need a template?

 

No, but if you're doing some marketing then it really helps!



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 02:25 PM

Aplogies for the egg-sucking lesson - wasn't my intention.

 

I thought most email clients have images turned off by default?

 

Not everyone is connect to fast network all the time. Rich media emails can take an age to download of an iffy 3G netrwork in the middle of Norfolk.



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 02:31 PM

Aplogies for the egg-sucking lesson - wasn't my intention.

 

I thought most email clients have images turned off by default?

 

Not everyone is connect to fast network all the time. Rich media emails can take an age to download of an iffy 3G netrwork in the middle of Norfolk.

 

No worries.

 

I don't know about 'most'... I use Outlook and Apple Mail and they both download the images first time. My iPhone does too... and let's be honest, who hasn't got an iPhone these days?

 

3G should be fine for downloading 300kb worth of email.



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 03:03 PM

Wow Coffeecup software - they have been around for a long time, I remember using some of their apps back in the 90's!

 

Their software is good quality and gets the job done - sure it may not be as perfect as hand coding etc but hell it's just a tool and if the output was crap they wouldn't have been in business this long.

 

Not sure nowadays but they used to periodically do amazing offers via their newsletters so may be worth subscribing if you can wait a bit.



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 03:42 PM

 

3G should be fine for downloading 300kb worth of email.

But it's not just your 300kb - it your message and everybody else's as well.

 

Have you split tested a fully formatted email versus something more simple?



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Posted 20 January 2016 - 03:47 PM

But it's not just your 300kb - it your message and everybody else's as well.

 

Have you split tested a fully formatted email versus something more simple?

 

My emails are fairly simple so no. If I was in an area with bad signal I'd just check my emails later, I think you worry too much.



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Posted 13 December 2016 - 05:00 PM

Actually i am lited old style person and prefer hand coded newsletter testing. I don't like chrome dev tools and stick on Firefox, Firebug + Responsive preview. When i have to make some email for customer just use some free tested template less problem with code. I found this useful site http://testi.at for rendering preview its free and i hope so will be in future save lot of time. Better than test email on all email client, it take ages to tes all email client.

 

I think this is software is only to test responsive page + some HTML preview base on Webkit egine. As i mention before you can do same think with responsive preview in you browser. Everything else is some extra helpers in this software maybe if you don't know HTML - wysiwyg is nice. But we are webdevs so even if you have to you can use some email builder like https://freshmail.co and it has lot of templates. About compatibility i don't this it will be automatic added some extra tags for Outlook or Yahoo. Somebody need to buy it and check if i worth it



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Posted 13 September 2017 - 08:33 AM

joomla is one of the better content management systems.

 

Erm, no it's not. Like, really not.






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