32 replies to this topic

[nibb]

i was just wandering if i could get some oppinions and suggestions for my site please.
http://www.nibb.co.uk

[MMMedia]

£7.50 per website design, I take it you don't live in the UK, then?

[Renaissance-Design]

Seriously? You'd be suspiciously cheap at £7.50 per hour.

Nobody's going to respect you at those prices.

[MikeChipshop]

At £7.50 you can take all my work and I'll keep the remaining few thousand pounds as a 'finders fee'

Also, minimum wage in the UK is £6.50. So even if you're working to that you must be knocking these sites outin an hour and 5 minuets.

Edited by MikeChipshop, 18 February 2012 - 10:41 PM.

[nibb]

yh i understand its cheap but look at todays market for website design. Starting a fresh company the user wants a professional design but at a cheap price.

[MikeChipshop]

Understandable but it's not a viable business and never will be.
Flogging your wares at that price will lead to exhaustion and major burn out before the first year is even up. Even £7.50 an hour is stupidly cheap.

What your doing isn't offering a good product at a good price what you are doing is devaluing the whole industry.

How long does it take you to build a website from initial client contact to sign off?

Oh and I don't have to look at today's iWeb design industry as I'm in it and I can tell you now that hard work and a stunning portfolio gets you everywhere. If I charged £7.50 for a site I'd never have got the decent clients I have on my books now. Trust me, you're doing neither yourself or the industry any good.

Edited by MikeChipshop, 18 February 2012 - 10:50 PM.

[nibb]

normally 2 days but e-cimmerce takes about 4-6 depending on how big the site is

[MikeChipshop]

Two days? If you're doing full 8 hour days Doesn't that make your hourly rate 46p?

Edited by MikeChipshop, 18 February 2012 - 10:55 PM.

[nibb]

yh :| .... so you think i shud raise the price?

[4colourprogress]

Screw that, I have virtually no experience but I still charge at least £25 an hour.

[nibb]

init i think i should put the price up a wee tad

[MikeChipshop]

yh :| .... so you think i shud raise the price?

Er yeah.
If I charged those prices it would take me 80 sites a month just to pay my rent.

[MikeChipshop]

Wait hang on. Do you mean 7.50 an hour or 7.50 a site?

[nibb]

7.50 a site

[MikeChipshop]

Cool.as I thought.
Yes I'd look at rethinking your prices.

[nibb]

yh cheers buddy will do that tomorow first thing

[MMMedia]

Are you very young because your concept of money seems lacking? I take it this is purely a hobby for you and not a business?

You can't make a living working for £7.50 every 2 days... you'd not even pay your broadband connection costs for that!

The cheapest ecommerce site we've done was ~£2,500 + hosting. We're currently working on a £12k ecommerce site based around Magento.

[nibb]

its more of a passion i love making websites. But yeah i see your point about the price i will change it tomorow

[zed]

it's almost troll like.

[JackLUFC]

At £7.50 you can take all my work and I'll keep the remaining few thousand pounds as a 'finders fee'

Also, minimum wage in the UK is £6.50. So even if you're working to that you must be knocking these sites outin an hour and 5 minuets.

The minimum wage is £6.08.

[zed]

42p for hosting

[Bomb]

I think you need to check the spelling & grammer, not only on that site but those in your portfolio too.

[nibb]

I agree bomb... and i just saw nibb on a different computer and the site looks slightly slim so tomorrow ill make the content boxs wider and re-check the grammer and spelling.

safe for the pointer

[JackLUFC]

I think you need to check the spelling & grammer, not only on that site but those in your portfolio too.

*Grammar.

[Bomb]

*Grammar.

lol tooshay!!

[JackLUFC]

lol tooshay!!

[porkchops]

Don't forget that there is a stigma attached to being the lowest-cost solution.

On a psychological level people associate cheap prices with cheap quality. You should certainly be practicing anchor pricing, but since you don't want to have three different price points you have to base it off your competitors. You need a cheaper solution to anchor the expectations and a higher price to compare against.

You will probably see an increase in your sales if you offer work at a slightly above median range and produce some work that demonstrates you have some ability. And to be perfectly frank, if you take on a client that is bargain-shopping they are likely going to be a nightmare to deal with and are always more trouble than it's worth.

[MMMedia]

You will probably see an increase in your sales if you offer work at a slightly above median range and produce some work that demonstrates you have some ability. And to be perfectly frank, if you take on a client that is bargain-shopping they are likely going to be a nightmare to deal with and are always more trouble than it's worth.

Well said that man.

Clients who aren't willing to pay for your time aren't worth your time.

We had a business approach us who wanted a website and logo design for £380 because "someone else can do it that cheap", our quote for the logo alone was around that figure. Needless to say we gracefully declined to re-quote, they went with the cheap option and now they have a clipart logo on their shop!

[hodephdesign]

It says e-commerce is £1.300, which to me is £1.30. I'd change that to a comma...

Edited by hodephdesign, 22 February 2012 - 10:33 AM.

[MMMedia]

It says e-commerce is £1.300, which to me is £1.30. I'd change that to a comma...

You are correct.

One of many mistakes in the copy...

[MikeChipshop]

I hate to be the one to say it nibb but i'm sure many here agree with me.
You're running before you've learnt to walk. You are not at the point yet where you should be charging for anything no matter how small the price.

You need to get some experience and learning under your belt. I advise you to buy a few books on design, development and business practice and then come back in a few years.

Obviously we'll help you through things here too.

[RussellBrown]

I think Chipshop is right there, not to be too down on you nibb I think you are just guilty of being a tad naive, but I would definitely invest in some design and typography books and you'll improve a lot from that.

[ash182]

Your 'AdBlast' website has no title! Pet hate

Edited by ash182, 25 February 2012 - 08:12 AM.