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#1 nibb

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 09:57 PM

i was just wandering if i could get some oppinions and suggestions for my site please.
http://www.nibb.co.uk

#2 MMMedia

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:13 PM

7.50 per website design, I take it you don't live in the UK, then?

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:37 PM

Seriously? You'd be suspiciously cheap at 7.50 per hour.

Nobody's going to respect you at those prices.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:39 PM

At £7.50 you can take all my work and I'll keep the remaining few thousand pounds as a 'finders fee' :p

Also, minimum wage in the UK is £6.50. So even if you're working to that you must be knocking these sites outin an hour and 5 minuets.

Edited by MikeChipshop, 18 February 2012 - 10:41 PM.


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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:43 PM

yh i understand its cheap but look at todays market for website design. Starting a fresh company the user wants a professional design but at a cheap price.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:48 PM

Understandable but it's not a viable business and never will be.
Flogging your wares at that price will lead to exhaustion and major burn out before the first year is even up. Even £7.50 an hour is stupidly cheap.

What your doing isn't offering a good product at a good price what you are doing is devaluing the whole industry.

How long does it take you to build a website from initial client contact to sign off?

Oh and I don't have to look at today's iWeb design industry as I'm in it and I can tell you now that hard work and a stunning portfolio gets you everywhere. If I charged £7.50 for a site I'd never have got the decent clients I have on my books now. Trust me, you're doing neither yourself or the industry any good.

Edited by MikeChipshop, 18 February 2012 - 10:50 PM.


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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:51 PM

normally 2 days but e-cimmerce takes about 4-6 depending on how big the site is

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:54 PM

Two days? If you're doing full 8 hour days Doesn't that make your hourly rate 46p?

Edited by MikeChipshop, 18 February 2012 - 10:55 PM.


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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:56 PM

yh :| .... so you think i shud raise the price?

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:57 PM

Screw that, I have virtually no experience but I still charge at least 25 an hour.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:59 PM

init i think i should put the price up a wee tad

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:03 PM

yh :| .... so you think i shud raise the price?


Er yeah.
If I charged those prices it would take me 80 sites a month just to pay my rent.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:04 PM

Wait hang on. Do you mean 7.50 an hour or 7.50 a site?

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:15 PM

7.50 a site

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:21 PM

Cool.as I thought.
Yes I'd look at rethinking your prices.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:22 PM

yh cheers buddy will do that tomorow first thing :D

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:57 PM

Are you very young because your concept of money seems lacking? I take it this is purely a hobby for you and not a business?

You can't make a living working for 7.50 every 2 days... you'd not even pay your broadband connection costs for that!

The cheapest ecommerce site we've done was ~2,500 + hosting. We're currently working on a 12k ecommerce site based around Magento.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:00 AM

its more of a passion i love making websites. But yeah i see your point about the price i will change it tomorow

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:13 AM

it's almost troll like.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 03:07 PM

At 7.50 you can take all my work and I'll keep the remaining few thousand pounds as a 'finders fee' :p

Also, minimum wage in the UK is 6.50. So even if you're working to that you must be knocking these sites outin an hour and 5 minuets.

The minimum wage is 6.08.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 03:20 PM

42p for hosting ;)

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:18 PM

I think you need to check the spelling & grammer, not only on that site but those in your portfolio too.

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 02:31 AM

I agree bomb... and i just saw nibb on a different computer and the site looks slightly slim so tomorrow ill make the content boxs wider and re-check the grammer and spelling.

safe for the pointer

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 05:31 PM

I think you need to check the spelling & grammer, not only on that site but those in your portfolio too.

*Grammar. :rolleyes:

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 05:45 PM

*Grammar. :rolleyes:

lol tooshay!! :lol:

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 06:34 PM

lol tooshay!! :lol:

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 11:38 PM

Don't forget that there is a stigma attached to being the lowest-cost solution.

On a psychological level people associate cheap prices with cheap quality. You should certainly be practicing anchor pricing, but since you don't want to have three different price points you have to base it off your competitors. You need a cheaper solution to anchor the expectations and a higher price to compare against.

You will probably see an increase in your sales if you offer work at a slightly above median range and produce some work that demonstrates you have some ability. And to be perfectly frank, if you take on a client that is bargain-shopping they are likely going to be a nightmare to deal with and are always more trouble than it's worth.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 10:25 AM

You will probably see an increase in your sales if you offer work at a slightly above median range and produce some work that demonstrates you have some ability. And to be perfectly frank, if you take on a client that is bargain-shopping they are likely going to be a nightmare to deal with and are always more trouble than it's worth.


Well said that man.

Clients who aren't willing to pay for your time aren't worth your time.

We had a business approach us who wanted a website and logo design for 380 because "someone else can do it that cheap", our quote for the logo alone was around that figure. Needless to say we gracefully declined to re-quote, they went with the cheap option and now they have a clipart logo on their shop!

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 10:33 AM

It says e-commerce is £1.300, which to me is £1.30. I'd change that to a comma...

Edited by hodephdesign, 22 February 2012 - 10:33 AM.


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Posted 22 February 2012 - 10:37 AM

It says e-commerce is 1.300, which to me is 1.30. I'd change that to a comma...


You are correct.

One of many mistakes in the copy...

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 10:46 AM

I hate to be the one to say it nibb but i'm sure many here agree with me.
You're running before you've learnt to walk. You are not at the point yet where you should be charging for anything no matter how small the price.

You need to get some experience and learning under your belt. I advise you to buy a few books on design, development and business practice and then come back in a few years.

Obviously we'll help you through things here too.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:47 PM

I think Chipshop is right there, not to be too down on you nibb I think you are just guilty of being a tad naive, but I would definitely invest in some design and typography books and you'll improve a lot from that.

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Posted 25 February 2012 - 08:11 AM

Your 'AdBlast' website has no title! Pet hate :(

Edited by ash182, 25 February 2012 - 08:12 AM.





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