[hogbear]

Hi,

I'm basically a noob who wants to learn how to design websites for my online resume, and then later for personal use. I have two weeks to dedicate 15 hours a day to learning. After that, I would probably spend 30 minutes a day learning.

I have basic knowledge with programming in Java and Scheme, but very little with HTML and none with CSS5.

Should I learn Ruby on Rails/PHP/CSS/HTML/HTML5 First? I'm interested in learning Ruby on Rails. I have a lynda.com membership.

Thanks so much!

This post has been edited by hogbear: 13 December 2011 - 07:14 PM

[opensesame]

hogbear, on 13 December 2011 - 06:35 PM, said:

Hi,

I'm basically a noob who wants to learn how to design websites for my online resume, and then later for personal use. I have two weeks to dedicate 15 hours a day to learning. After that, I would probably spend 30 minutes a day learning.

I have basic knowledge with programming in Java and Scheme, but very little with HTML and none with CSS5.

Should I learn Ruby on Rails/PHP/CSS/HTML/HTML5 First? I'm interested in learning Ruby on Rails. I have a lynda.com membership.

Thanks so much!

Well HTML5 is only supported by IE9 and the latest version of firefox so scrap that.

HTML and CSS are your bread and butter in the web world so learn that fluently first.

HTML & CSS is code browsers use to render websites, that's why sometimes a website will look different in browsers because they render the code slightly differently.

PHP is a server side language, the code is used to perform server actions, such as email forms, interaction with databases etc.

This post has been edited by opensesame: 14 December 2011 - 09:58 AM

[D.Schuster]

opensesame, on 14 December 2011 - 09:56 AM, said:

Well HTML5 is only supported by IE9 and the latest version of firefox so scrap that.

HTML and CSS are your bread and butter in the web world so learn that fluently first.

HTML & CSS is code browsers use to render websites, that's why sometimes a website will look different in browsers because they render the code slightly differently.

PHP is a server side language, the code is used to perform server actions, such as email forms, interaction with databases etc.

Have some precious, precious reputation points!

I would suggest you find a web designer on this forum, suggest to be his "apprentice" for free in return for your help you'll learn then leech all his knowledge away from him/her

rinse and repeat.
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don't worry it's not as parasitic as it sounds it's more of a symbiosis, I for one love teaching starter ups, they get menial tasks done for me and learn something in the process, SURE most of the time I have to clean up after them in the first month or so, but after a month they can do most of the work for you.

[hogbear]

Thanks guys!

I'm going to learn HTML first,

Here's the tutorials; I don't know which one(s) I should go for, could you guys help?

http://www.lynda.com...ials/224-0.html

[byronc]

Try get some paid website work, even if its cheap, that means you have a forced discipline, you learn, its useful to someone, you get paid, happyness all round

[brightonmike]

hogbear, on 14 December 2011 - 05:37 PM, said:

Thanks guys!

I'm going to learn HTML first,

Here's the tutorials; I don't know which one(s) I should go for, could you guys help?

http://www.lynda.com...ials/224-0.html

Ignore what the guy said about not bothering with HTML5. You do need to learn HTML5, all new modern websites are being coded to HTML5 standards and not knowing HTML5 or not using it could hamper your ability in future and the chances of you getting employed.

[brightonmike]

opensesame, on 14 December 2011 - 09:56 AM, said:

Well HTML5 is only supported by IE9 and the latest version of firefox so scrap that.

Please don't give the kid bad advice like this. He absolutely should learn HTML5 and your comments about HTML5 support are at best mis-leading and at worst completely wrong.

HTML5 is supported by ALL commonly used browsers except IE8, and IE8 support can be added using a Javascript Shiv - meaning HTML5 can work in all browsers.

Certain elements should be used with caution, and a developer should always use a fall-back if there's limited support.

But telling the kid to scrap learning it altogether is terrible advice.

[J.P]

HTML - a full understanding is key, you can then apply this to HTML5 very quickly, which you should use for your future projects. The reason I prefer to get people started on HTML first is because you will most likely come across this code very quickly, it's good to have knowledge of both new and old to avoid mistakes.

Regarding the Rails stuff, I have been working on a HTML5, Amazon S3 & Rails media player as a personal project. It's not as easy as most people think as you need a fairly good understanding of the way programming works first. You also can't do much without HTML as essentially theres nothing to bring it all together.