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What is Linux's version of Dream Weaver?

#1 User is offline   gigman7 

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 08:53 PM

Okay, I'll now admit it. Windows sucks. Tomorrow I will be installing Ubuntu. I like Dream Weaver. But I can change. Any recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 09:03 PM

I can't agree with you more when it comes to Windows. I've been running Kubuntu (Ubuntu + kde) for years now.

Anyway, in place of Dreamweaver there are several to choose from. The programs I personally use are...

Netbeans 7.x. It can be found here: www.netbeans.org. It's pretty stable and reliable. An all-around good IDE. But, I'd say it's geared more towards PHP if you download it for web design. If PHP isn't your interest, it still has so much to offer for html/css/javascript, but if it's not your type of flavor, try the program below.

Another good program I personally love is Aptana (www.aptana.org). It's great and I would use it over Netbeans IF they had support for file syncing...which they don't I'm afraid. It's such a small feature but the absence of it drives me insane. (Of course there is a plugin for one-way file syncing, but it's not satisfactory in my eyes)

I'd say to try them both out. they're really good editors. If all else fails, keep a partition dedicated to Windows if you absolutely can't let go of Dreamweaver but I think the above programs perform wonderfully.

PS: What I've mentioned above are just my personal selections. There are many more good editors for linux systems out there.

Kind Regards

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Posted 03 November 2011 - 09:26 PM

Have built and still upgrading a site using a lot of php and MySQL. I'll check it out when I get my computer ready.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 09:48 PM

I have not played around with the Wine package of late but vaugely recall somebody saying that could be used to run Dreamweaver inside Linux, might be worth a google.
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Posted 03 November 2011 - 10:42 PM

Your OS is your personal choice.
In my opinion Linux sucks.
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 12:25 AM

Linux is great if you want to spend ages learning things, i have friends who are massive nerds who love it, I on the other hand don't have the time or love. W7 is fine for me.
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 03:04 AM

Every O/S sucks.. sing along if you know the words
http://youtu.be/bUFZgD9mwxA
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 04:08 PM

Here are the things I like about DW.

When I save a file, it saves it both on my system and on my server.

When I have a page that I am only working with text or mostly with text, I like using the wysiwyg to help out with that.

I'm used to it.
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 04:38 PM

View Postgigman7, on 04 November 2011 - 04:08 PM, said:

Here are the things I like about DW.

When I save a file, it saves it both on my system and on my server.

When I have a page that I am only working with text or mostly with text, I like using the wysiwyg to help out with that.

I'm used to it.


Here's the thing. Of the two editors I mentioned above, Netbeans has default support file syncing (saving on both your system and the server). Aptana does not, but you can install a plugin that sort of does the job, but it's not the most elegant.

The issue is that you won't find a a wysiwyg editor with any of these. Perhaps there's a plugin, but I haven't searched. Personally, I try to stay away from a wysiwyg as much as possible so it's not so much of a letdown to me but perhaps it could be a major drawback in your case. As I said above, you should probably leave a partition to Windows for Dreamweaver if you're not comfortable..
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 06:23 PM

View PostEwan Petersen, on 04 November 2011 - 04:38 PM, said:

Here's the thing. Of the two editors I mentioned above, Netbeans has default support file syncing (saving on both your system and the server). Aptana does not, but you can install a plugin that sort of does the job, but it's not the most elegant.

The issue is that you won't find a a wysiwyg editor with any of these. Perhaps there's a plugin, but I haven't searched. Personally, I try to stay away from a wysiwyg as much as possible so it's not so much of a letdown to me but perhaps it could be a major drawback in your case. As I said above, you should probably leave a partition to Windows for Dreamweaver if you're not comfortable..

I just downloaded it and now trying to install it. When I do, I get this message...

Could not open the file /home/glenn/Downloads/ne…ans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh.
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:12 PM

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I just downloaded it and now trying to install it. When I do, I get this message...

Could not open the file /home/glenn/Downloads/ne…ans-7.0.1-ml-php-linux.sh.


Well first of all there's not supposed to be a dot at the end of the extension ("sh"). I should be "....-php-linux.sh" But perhaps that period was just to end the sentence you were typing.

but also...

Did you make sure that the file is executable? Assuming you're in Ubuntu, you should be able to right click on the file in your file manager and in the file properties, there should be a field that says "is_executable" or something similar. Make sure that area is checked and then try launching it again.

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:16 PM

How are you trying to install it?
In the terminal, cd in to the Downloads folder...
cd ~/Downloads

Then typing
./ 

directly before the file name (no spaces) should start the installer.
If you still get errors, make sure the file is executable
chmod +x 'filename'


woops, beaten to it :)

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 07:24 PM

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woops, beaten to it


Haha nah. I may be wrong, but it seems like the thread creator is new to linux in general so I was trying to avoid typing in all the scary command line statements for getting the job done (even though I really wanted to). If he doesn't understand the gui method then yours is the next thing to try.
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 08:41 PM

View PostWBC, on 04 November 2011 - 12:25 AM, said:

Linux is great if you want to spend ages learning things, i have friends who are massive nerds who love it, I on the other hand don't have the time or love. W7 is fine for me.



im guessing you never tried it out then, people are scared of linux and think it takes ages to learn the basics, but couldn't be more wrong. I too was one of those people however after a couple of days i could do everything i needed, this is from the server edition (command line) if your using ubuntu desktop you shouldn't have many problems.

Why your using dreamweaver still baffles me tho
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 08:50 PM

View PostCoreM34, on 04 November 2011 - 08:41 PM, said:

people are scared of linux and think it takes ages to learn the basics, but couldn't be more wrong.

Agree. It if very easy to work with. Lots more support also.
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 08:52 PM

View PostCoreM34, on 04 November 2011 - 08:41 PM, said:


Why your using dreamweaver still baffles me tho


Well, like I said, I like it saving on my server and on my system at the same time. That's one reason, and maybe the main reason right now. That's and being so used to it. I also like the color coding it uses.
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 08:53 PM

View PostCoreM34, on 04 November 2011 - 08:41 PM, said:


Why your using dreamweaver still baffles me tho


How comes?
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Posted 04 November 2011 - 11:53 PM

View PostMikeChipshop, on 04 November 2011 - 08:53 PM, said:

How comes?


I'm guessing because there's nothing it does (that isn't a complete cock-up, like Design View) that can't be done by something else, often free (Netbeans, Eclipse etc). If you've already paid for it, only use Code View and have no desire to climb the learning curve of a new IDE - fair enough, but I can see why someone would be an advocate for the alternatives.
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 12:46 AM

View PostCoreM34, on 04 November 2011 - 08:41 PM, said:

im guessing you never tried it out then, people are scared of linux and think it takes ages to learn the basics, but couldn't be more wrong. I too was one of those people however after a couple of days i could do everything i needed, this is from the server edition (command line) if your using ubuntu desktop you shouldn't have many problems.




I have had ubuntu.
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 12:49 AM

As long as you understand web design from the code Dreamweaver is fine, anything using a design WYSISYG mode is going to be floored, and I'd suggest avoided.
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 10:42 AM

View PostMikeChipshop, on 03 November 2011 - 10:42 PM, said:

Your OS is your personal choice.
In my opinion Linux sucks.

The OS that practically runs the internet sucks? I bet you use linux hosting, though? ;) :p

To answer the original question, I use the pre-installed gedit code editor, handily called 'text editor' in more recent versions of Ubuntu. You may need to switch on syntax highlighting, but it's a great little program.

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Posted 05 November 2011 - 10:52 AM

View Postnotbanksy, on 05 November 2011 - 10:42 AM, said:

The OS that practically runs the internet sucks? I bet you use linux hosting, though? ;) :p



OK smart arse i'll re-word that. ;)

In the past, when i have played with various instillations of Linux for my workstation, home PC, laptop and media streamer, i found it didn't suit me. I therefore stuck with Windows as i felt it better suited my style of computing and i already had a good enough working knowledge of it.

Therefore for MikeChgipshop Linux wasn't the way forward... happy now? :p

In all honesty though it is another system of doing things, some will like it others wont but in the long run that's life, life is full of personal choices.
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 10:56 AM

View PostMikeChipshop, on 05 November 2011 - 10:52 AM, said:

OK smart arse i'll re-word that. ;)

[furiously digs self out of hole]

Therefore for MikeChgipshop Linux wasn't the way forward... happy now? :p

Much obliged to you sir! I'll let you off this one :D
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Posted 05 November 2011 - 11:08 AM

View Postnotbanksy, on 05 November 2011 - 10:56 AM, said:

Much obliged to you sir! I'll let you off this one :D


Why thank you :D

Although i have no idea who MikeChgipshop is...
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Posted 07 November 2011 - 07:53 PM

This isn't really where this needs to be posted, but I'll try it. How do I configure KompoZer to directly edit my web pages?
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Posted 07 November 2011 - 08:48 PM

View Postgigman7, on 07 November 2011 - 07:53 PM, said:

This isn't really where this needs to be posted, but I'll try it. How do I configure KompoZer to directly edit my web pages?


You right it isn't.

Make a new thread as the people who have the answers may never see it.
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Posted 07 November 2011 - 09:03 PM

View Postgigman7, on 07 November 2011 - 07:53 PM, said:

This isn't really where this needs to be posted, but I'll try it. How do I configure KompoZer to directly edit my web pages?


You shouldn't. You should always edit and test locally before publishing to the web, as any mistakes you made when editing on the server would be instantly live for the world to see.

Still, it is possible.
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Posted 07 November 2011 - 09:10 PM

View PostRenaissance-Design, on 07 November 2011 - 09:03 PM, said:

You shouldn't. You should always edit and test locally before publishing to the web, as any mistakes you made when editing on the server would be instantly live for the world to see.

Still, it is possible.

Thanks for the reply. I actually work on it through a "test site" and when I get it right, I move it to my real site.

But maybe I need to start doing it locally. How do I install php on Ubuntu?
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Posted 09 November 2011 - 10:17 AM

View Postgigman7, on 07 November 2011 - 09:10 PM, said:

Thanks for the reply. I actually work on it through a "test site" and when I get it right, I move it to my real site.

But maybe I need to start doing it locally. How do I install php on Ubuntu?

I would advise you to install XAMPP for php - it's a quick install, it's stable, and easy to use. http://www.apachefri...ampp-linux.html
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