[terydinho]

An agency I do a lot of work with is looking for a full time junior web developer to work on the day-to-day stuff, such as updating sites, creating flash banners, managing cms's for clients etc...

You will work under a digital manager and this is a great opportunity to get some good experience in a commercial environment, whilst learning a lot about web design and development while you're at it.


Country:
This is a full time role at a lovely, friendly agency in Harlow, Essex (CM17). This is NOT REMOTE WORK - please do not PM me with requests to do the job remotely. You will be ignored.


Scope:
As above - it will be a FULL TIME role. In Harlow, Essex. You must be able to commute to, or live in Harlow. You will be mostly updating and maintaining sites for clients, under the supervision of a digital manager. But there is a good chance to grow and learn as you work.

A rough knowledge of PLESK would be useful, even if it is not in a commercial environment.

Design skills are un-important; but a knowledge of html/css are.


Salary:
from £13,000 to £16,000 depending on experience and level of knowledge.
I have spoken to my friends at the agency and they have confirmed that the salary will be around £16,000 depending on experience and level of knowledge - it could be a little more or a little less, it just depends on the applicant.


Please PM me with any questions and if you would like to put yourself forwards for an interview, please include your portfolio in your PM if you have one.

Thanks
Rob

This post has been edited by terydinho: 21 July 2011 - 06:57 AM
Reason for edit: Salary Change: £16,000 doe

[terydinho]

81 views and not one comment or PM?

Does nobody want to be a full timer anymore?

This is an excellent opportunity for a real junior person who wants to learn whilst they earn

[Gibson]

terydinho, on 19 July 2011 - 07:12 AM, said:

from £13,000 to £16,000

Whoa.... I think these figures may be the reason no one has replied. This really ought to read more like £18,000 if it's "junior" position. 13 to 16 is just downright underpaid.

[terydinho]

around the £15,000 for a regional agency, first time role, is around the industry standard Gibson.

If it were a London agency, then £18k+ would be on the cards, but a regional agency, probably not

[Gibson]

terydinho, on 20 July 2011 - 12:41 PM, said:

If it were a London agency, then £18k+ would be on the cards

Fair do's I'll take your word for it. I was going on the kind of salaries I've seen in the outer London suburbs - perhaps they're the same as the ones that are actually in London?

Still think "13" is a bit low though. Perhaps if they put "15 - 16" they might get a better response?

Edit - my first role was £25K. Seems to be a wild variation in the starting salaries.

This post has been edited by Gibson: 20 July 2011 - 12:47 PM

[terydinho]

Yeah I know what you mean mate - the salaries vary wildly based on location, skill level, area of skill etc...

My first role was £24k and that was a good 6 years ago now. The salary will definitely be around the £16k mark I would imagine, although I am not doing the employing.. this is just for a friend who runs an agency.

[skidz]

terydinho, on 20 July 2011 - 12:03 PM, said:

81 views and not one comment or PM?

Does nobody want to be a full timer anymore?

This is an excellent opportunity for a real junior person who wants to learn whilst they earn

Quote

Salary:
from £13,000 to £16,000 depending on experience and level of knowledge.

I've had 3 web dev jobs, also seen a lot of adverts for web dev jobs and I'm sure this is the lowest paid

This post has been edited by skidz: 20 July 2011 - 02:39 PM

[Jock]

I think the salary is fair for a Junior web developer, this would be a fantastic opportunity to get into the industry. Not everyone can just waltz into a job paying 25K a year.

[Gibson]

Jock has a good point. However in my humble opinion, what's killing this is the "13". I think 16 would be reasonable. The point about going into a job at 13 is the person is potentially setting themselves up for a big bowl of fail. If that salary doesn't go up, then once that person has 1 or 2 years experience and they move on to their next job, they don't have a lot of leverage to negotiate themselves a proper salary when the new employer asks them what salary they were on in their last job.

Example -
Employer : "What salary were you on in your last position?"
Employee : "13 grand"
Employer : "We'll give you 15 grand".

So then you have someone with 1 or 2 years experience (who now ought to be in the low 20's at least) stuck on 15 grand.

I think if this company put 16, or even "15 or 16" they might get a better response. From there, the employee could rise potentially to the early 20's in a couple of years, and perhaps the late twenties after 3 years.

So Jock I think you're right - it is a fantastic opportunity if they go in at more like the 16 grand mark. But if they go in at 13 grand, it's actually counter productive, and not good for their future.

terydinho - if the job is probably going to go in at 16 grand, why are they putting 13-16? Why not just put 16 and be fair to all parties involved?

[terydinho]

I am not sure Gibson - I just got told what the range was to be honest.

I didn't actually expect to get anyone from WDF applying - mainly because the members here are generally more advanced than a £15k job in this area - most people on here who would want a full-time role are actually already web designers. This is more of a 'get into web design' role - perfect for someone with an interest and have done some playing around

[Gibson]

All power to you for advertising it here though tery, if a young up and comer gets this for 15k or 16k, works hard, and receives genuine training on the job, then all's gravy.

Even though you didn't expect anyone here to apply, people from here may know someone that wants to get into it that they can pass it on to, so kudos for that.

[terydinho]

Salary updated - to confirm it will be "Around £16,000 per year, depending on experience and level of skill/knowledge"

[skidz]

terydinho, on 20 July 2011 - 05:00 PM, said:

This is more of a 'get into web design'

I thought this thread was for a developer?

[terydinho]

skidz, on 21 July 2011 - 01:43 PM, said:

I thought this thread was for a developer?

Design and Development - bit of everything