[kingy da killa]

www.bkwebdesignandhosting.co.uk

I have started this websites a couple months ago, i was wondering how i can tell if im ranking up in google or not?

e.g a tool which we allow me to chose my search, such as: cheap web design... and then it says what page im on for that search,

[neil0wen]

Here you go:

Google position checker

[kingy da killa]

it saying: Search completed!

but no results or anything shows up :S huh

[ayoungh]

I was getting searching and no results displaying on that tool? :s

[kingy da killa]

owell :/ ive tryed other tools and apprently im not ranked 1000th or below for any keywords lol apart from my domain probs :/ HELP

[DanSandercock]

You should give Market Samurai a try. I think you can get a 30 day free trial here http://www.marketsamurai.com/

It has a great Rank checker for keywords and gives you other data as well as allowing you to drill down on keyword research.

[rallport]

kingy da killa, on 04 January 2011 - 04:52 PM, said:

owell :/ ive tryed other tools and apprently im not ranked 1000th or below for any keywords lol apart from my domain probs :/ HELP

Have a very quick look at your website, that really doesn't surprise me.

kingy da killa, on 04 January 2011 - 03:55 PM, said:

www.bkwebdesignandhosting.co.uk

I have started this websites a couple months ago, i was wondering how i can tell if im ranking up in google or not?

e.g a tool which we allow me to chose my search, such as: cheap web design... and then it says what page im on for that search,

The fact you're ofering SEO as a service on your website is insane to be honest. I'm actually surprised you think you can offer it as service.

Honestly, no offence intended here. First things first, you have canonical issues with your listing in Google, you have www. and none www. version of your site indexed, which may at some point lead to duplicate content issues. Also, you're not doing any sort of 301 redirect to remedy this.

As a result you have links pointing to bkwebdesignandhosting.co.uk and www.bkwebdesignandhosting.co.uk according to yahoo site explorer

Take the term you're apparently targetting - 'cheap web design' -a very competitive term. Unless you do some insane link building is simply no way on this earth that you're going to be anywhere. As an example, I'll compare you site, very basically, to some others that rank highly for that term:

bkwebdesignandhosting.co.uk (backlinks ~20, including those from www. and non www.)
red-fern.co.uk (backlinks ~5250)
totalcreation.co.uk (backlinks ~5100)
coolcreation.co.uk (backlinks ~9100)

As you can see after two months you simply have no chance of ranking for that term, the sites I've listed have been building thousands of links over a long period of time.

The fact you've even asked the question, with the fact you have 20 backlinks AND you're apparently offering SEo as service is ridiculous to be perfectly honest.

I won't go into any of the following issues with:

• Design/layout
• Broken links
• Poor quality articles added simply for SEO benefit (or lack of in this case)
• Absolutely stupid font color choices that make text very annoying/.difficult/impossible to read

Do yourself a favour, have a proper readup on the basics of SEO - Google do an excellent beginners guide - before offering it as a service.

This post has been edited by rallport: 24 January 2011 - 12:45 PM

[CityCM]

It's shocking that you're offering SEo when the SEO on your own site is provided by the All In One SEO Pack

[kingy da killa]

CityCM, on 24 January 2011 - 01:03 PM, said:

It's shocking that you're offering SEo when the SEO on your own site is provided by the All In One SEO Pack

its shocking your website lies about valid html

say no more

[kingy da killa]

rallport, on 24 January 2011 - 12:42 PM, said:

Have a very quick look at your website, that really doesn't surprise me.




The fact you're ofering SEO as a service on your website is insane to be honest. I'm actually surprised you think you can offer it as service.

Honestly, no offence intended here. First things first, you have canonical issues with your listing in Google, you have www. and none www. version of your site indexed, which may at some point lead to duplicate content issues. Also, you're not doing any sort of 301 redirect to remedy this.

As a result you have links pointing to bkwebdesignandhosting.co.uk and www.bkwebdesignandhosting.co.uk according to yahoo site explorer

Take the term you're apparently targetting - 'cheap web design' -a very competitive term. Unless you do some insane link building is simply no way on this earth that you're going to be anywhere. As an example, I'll compare you site, very basically, to some others that rank highly for that term:

bkwebdesignandhosting.co.uk (backlinks ~20, including those from www. and non www.)
red-fern.co.uk (backlinks ~5250)
totalcreation.co.uk (backlinks ~5100)
coolcreation.co.uk (backlinks ~9100)

As you can see after two months you simply have no chance of ranking for that term, the sites I've listed have been building thousands of links over a long period of time.

The fact you've even asked the question, with the fact you have 20 backlinks AND you're apparently offering SEo as service is ridiculous to be perfectly honest.

I won't go into any of the following issues with:

• Design/layout
• Broken links
• Poor quality articles added simply for SEO benefit (or lack of in this case)
• Absolutely stupid font color choices that make text very annoying/.difficult/impossible to read

Do yourself a favour, have a proper readup on the basics of SEO - Google do an excellent beginners guide - before offering it as a service.

cheers for some helpful info there, other times your being plain rude..

[rallport]

kingy da killa, on 24 January 2011 - 01:14 PM, said:

cheers for some helpful info there, other times your being plain rude..

Take it how you want, I honestly couldn't care less if you think I'm being rude - you've never said I was being rude when I posted help - weird eh? I wasn't trying to be rude in the least, just stating some facts:

• You have next to no effective SEO on your site
• You've targetted the incorrect terms for a new and small website
• Some of your color choices are plain stupid, as I can't read the text
• You DO post your blog entries purely for SEO benenfit - "css3 - create rounded corners" anyone?
• Compared to your competitors for the phrase you mentioned, you have next to no change of ranking at all as yopu DO have 20 backlinkls
• You DO have canonical issues (SEO 101 here, certainly not something someone offering SEO as a service should be having)
• You DO have broken links on your site (again, SEO absolute basics)
• YOu do lack a lot of basis SEO knowledge and should leanr the basics first

In fact, it seems to be a pretty common scenario with you - someone posts something you don't like and you go all defensive E.g. look at your reply to CityCM's valid point in this very thread.

The fact you offer SEO as a service when I you've proved that you know little about SEO yourself is insane. The internet has far to many one man band web companies offering the world, with little or no knowledge themselves.

This issue always annoys me, as we have a lot of those type of people/web companies around here.

[CityCM]

kingy da killa, on 24 January 2011 - 01:10 PM, said:

its shocking your website lies about valid html

say no more

Excuse me? Our website has valid xhtml AND css. Click the logos at the bottom of our site. There are no issues with our site at all.

Edit: Also, why does your link to the 'portfolio' page just link to a contact form with no explanation at all?

This post has been edited by CityCM: 24 January 2011 - 02:24 PM

[rallport]

CityCM, on 24 January 2011 - 02:08 PM, said:

Excuse me? Our website has valid xhtml AND css. Click the logos at the bottom of our site. There are no issues with our site at all.

He a little annoyed as I pointed out a the plethora of issues on his site.

[CityCM]

rallport, on 24 January 2011 - 02:26 PM, said:

He a little annoyed as I pointed out a the plethora of issues on his site.

Yeah, all of which are very valid points.

[neil0wen]

kingy da killa, on 04 January 2011 - 04:21 PM, said:

it saying: Search completed!

but no results or anything shows up :S huh

If your not in the top 100 it will show no results. However it does have a slight bug and sometimes shows no results even if you are. Try repeat clicking on the submit button.

This post has been edited by neil0wen: 24 January 2011 - 04:23 PM

[kingy da killa]

rallport, on 24 January 2011 - 02:02 PM, said:

Take it how you want, I honestly couldn't care less if you think I'm being rude - you've never said I was being rude when I posted help - weird eh? I wasn't trying to be rude in the least, just stating some facts:

• You have next to no effective SEO on your site
• You've targetted the incorrect terms for a new and small website
• Some of your color choices are plain stupid, as I can't read the text
• You DO post your blog entries purely for SEO benenfit - "css3 - create rounded corners" anyone?
• Compared to your competitors for the phrase you mentioned, you have next to no change of ranking at all as yopu DO have 20 backlinkls
• You DO have canonical issues (SEO 101 here, certainly not something someone offering SEO as a service should be having)
• You DO have broken links on your site (again, SEO absolute basics)
• YOu do lack a lot of basis SEO knowledge and should leanr the basics first

In fact, it seems to be a pretty common scenario with you - someone posts something you don't like and you go all defensive E.g. look at your reply to CityCM's valid point in this very thread.The fact you offer SEO as a service when I you've proved that you know little about SEO yourself is insane. The internet has far to many one man band web companies offering the world, with little or no knowledge themselves. This issue always annoys me, as we have a lot of those type of people/web companies around here.

this website was a test to see if i could build a site around wordpress... you think im keeping it forever or something... when i post most of my questions on here, its usually for websites that im working on for my company. I deleted one of the domains off google so cheers for telling me to do that, and btw try be more senstive towards my design and other peoplesfor that matter. we cant all be amazing designers likes you. it takes time. i do apperecatite help from the people on here but when i got people being rude to me its like wth...... however i will be looking more into seo because i no its cheeky offering the service but for any new clients i have i can do basic seo for them...

CityCM, on 24 January 2011 - 02:08 PM, said:

Excuse me? Our website has valid xhtml AND css. Click the logos at the bottom of our site. There are no issues with our site at all.Edit: Also, why does your link to the 'portfolio' page just link to a contact form with no explanation at all?

Well when i checked it from the valid link on your homepage it was red now its magicaly green(wonder why)... loads of your pages arent valid html... so maybe you should check that out.

This post has been edited by Wickham: 24 January 2011 - 05:10 PM

[CityCM]

kingy da killa, on 24 January 2011 - 04:40 PM, said:

Well when i checked it from the valid link on your homepage it was red now its magicaly green(wonder why)... loads of your pages arent valid html... so maybe you should check that out.

Which pages?

This post has been edited by Wickham: 24 January 2011 - 05:10 PM

[kingy da killa]

CityCM, on 24 January 2011 - 04:44 PM, said:

Which pages?

well i just randomly choose 1 link, so im quite sure theres alot of them with problems...
cba to check for you, thats your job, but what isent your job is taking on a forum mods role

This post has been edited by Wickham: 24 January 2011 - 05:11 PM

[CityCM]

kingy da killa, on 24 January 2011 - 04:48 PM, said:

well i just randomly choose 1 link, so im quite sure theres alot of them with problems...
cba to check for you, thats your job, but what isent your job is taking on a forum mods role

Well I've just checked all the pages on my site and they are all valid xhtml.

This post has been edited by CityCM: 24 January 2011 - 04:53 PM

[kingy da killa]

CityCM, on 24 January 2011 - 04:52 PM, said:

Well funny that I've just checked all the pages on my site and they are all valid xhtml so you obviously haven't got a clue.

http://validator.w3....=Inline&group=0

http://validator.w3....=Inline&group=0

[CityCM]

kingy da killa, on 24 January 2011 - 04:55 PM, said:

http://validator.w3....=Inline&group=0

http://validator.w3....=Inline&group=0

To be fair, that's the billing software which is a mega well known script and it's hardly my fault if it's not valid html.

[kingy da killa]

CityCM, on 24 January 2011 - 04:56 PM, said:

To be fair, that's the billing software which is a mega well known script and it's hardly my fault if it's not valid html.

check pm

[rallport]

kingy da killa, on 24 January 2011 - 04:55 PM, said:

http://validator.w3....=Inline&group=0

http://validator.w3....=Inline&group=0

OMFG!

The pages you've chosen are shopping cart pages, so won't be in search engines anyway - again, you pure lack of SEO knowledge is showing through again. :/

Also, did you take time to look at the actual errors and warning - all but one are down to a couple of ampersands not being encoded. Hardly a major issue at all - if anything, it's a total none issue even on a page that CityCM would, like to include in search engines (aka, not the shopping page)

Also, you seem to think that search engines won't index pages that don't perfectly validate - your so wrong. Go into Google and search for a stupidly competitive term like 'hd tv'. Then, run the second result through the validator - hdtvorg.co.uk - 474 errors and 475 warnings, see http://validator.w3....=Inline&group=0

..and that site is ranked above sites that validate to xhtml 1.0 strict perfectly. You're quoting one of those pathetic SEO myths that gets thrown around far too often.

Additionally, it's not always possible for sites to be fully valid and just because isn't perfectly valid, doesn't mean the site is badly coded. W3C validation only becomes a major issue to get concerned about when certain errors are stopping the site from rendering in browsers.

Which brings me to another point about SEO. Google is always going to be and will be more so in the future, all about quality content. If a page (like the two hd tv sites I used above for example) has some truely compelling content that lots of sites link to then Google will instantly favour the site in question. It won't think, "hold on just one minute, those two ampersands aren't encoded into their correct HTML entities, lets penalise that site massively".

I actually wrote a bit of an angry blog about W3C validation and SEO on my blog, which seems pretty relevant here

[rallport]

CityCM, on 24 January 2011 - 04:56 PM, said:

To be fair, that's the billing software which is a mega well known script and it's hardly my fault if it's not valid html.

To be perfectly frank, it's a shopping cart page that won't get indexed search engines, that renders as expected, that has a couple of unencoded ampersands.

I really would even give a second thought to it as it's a total none issue.