[ratey]

Country:
UK only please

Scope:
A brand new website for a leaflet distribution company. One front page, contact page, prices page, misc page.Website optimisation and set-up of affliate links

Time Frame:
1 week

Budget:
Due to the nature of the website i'm ideally looking for someone who is trying to build their portfolio and willing to undertake this project pro bono.

Thanks

[BlueDreamer]

If I build your site for free will you come round to my place because there are a few jobs I'd like someone to do for free as well....

Do the washing up for a week
Clearing out my garden (no mean task!!!)
Give my car a wash and polish
...and while you're at it you can do my weekly shop as well

[Dizi]

"Due to the nature of the website"... sorry I don't understand this part as surely the nature of the site is to get people to want to pay you to distribute their leaflets rather than a different company, so that you can make money instead of a different company? So why shouldn't you have to pay for that privilege?

Unless your company is a none profit leaflet distributor, a charity maybe, then the nature of the site isn't what I think it is, in which case I would understand why you are trying to get a freebie, as the nature of your site wouldn't be to try and drive business to you instead of your competitors.

[Sam G]

Oh dear...

[socreative]

ratey, on Jun 16 2009, 15:30, said:

Scope:
A brand new website for a leaflet distribution company. One front page, contact page, prices page, misc page.Website optimisation and set-up of affliate links

Time Frame:
1 week

Budget:
Due to the nature of the website i'm ideally looking for someone who is trying to build their portfolio and willing to undertake this project pro bono.

Thanks

You obviously did your research. Not just the website for free but the SEO as well. I think i'm up for it, and also, do you know anyone that needs a free website as well, I'll do it !!!! I also enjoy doing a lot of things for free! Especially if I have deadlines for my free work! Who needs money anyway!

[Sam G]

LMFAO

[neilp]

Quote

You obviously did your research. Not just the website for free but the SEO as well. I think i'm up for it, and also, do you know anyone that needs a free website as well, I'll do it !!!! I also enjoy doing a lot of things for free! Especially if I have deadlines for my free work! Who needs money anyway!

Yeah.....B******S to it.....I'll do it all for free n'all. Could do with spending a whole WEEK doing something for free!! In fact, i love doing things for free so much that i was thinking of changing my name by D-poll to CHARITY CASE!!!

[Xpert Web]

Good luck finding someone to do it for FREE, you could be in for a long wait!!

[Highway7]

Dizi, on Jun 16 2009, 16:01, said:

"Due to the nature of the website"... sorry I don't understand this part as surely the nature of the site is to get people to want to pay you to distribute their leaflets rather than a different company, so that you can make money instead of a different company? So why shouldn't you have to pay for that privilege?

Here here.

Talk about money for nothing...

[IanC]

This guy's a pro, he's called Bono, likes the occasional bit of charity work by all accounts. Can't vouch for his SEO skills, and he's a busy lad so a week might be a bit of an ask. Might be worth a shout though ....

[ratey]

LOL - what a response eh! Thought it may have been an opporturnity for someone just setting up as a designer who has some basic skills - i have no knowledge of the web designing sector but certaintly for other sectors it is a struggle to show off your abilities in the first place before people are willing to pay for your time.

As i was mistaken I will consider offers for monetary award, failing which i'll go to bono as suggested.

[bocaj]

Haha, i wouldn't trust bono, he does work about global warming whilst using his plane to pollute the world along the way, Doesn't really work too well in my eyes.

Got a budget range in mind?

[ratey]

bocaj, on Jun 16 2009, 19:16, said:

Haha, i wouldn't trust bono, he does work about global warming whilst using his plane to pollute the world along the way, Doesn't really work too well in my eyes.

Got a budget range in mind?

I'm unsure to be honest so i'm looking through offers recieved.

[traxor]

It's unrealistic to want a website free of charge, for a simple five page website you should be lookin at £300 minimum.

[chrisbailey]

PM'd you.

[neilp]

traxor, on Jun 16 2009, 19:29, said:

It's unrealistic to want a website free of charge, for a simple five page website you should be lookin at £300 minimum.

Well..... I don't know about £300 but i would look at anything from £150. All depends on what you want?

[notbanksy]

socreative, on Jun 16 2009, 16:38, said:

Ben/ Mod Squad. Please can you add this to the sticky 'read before posting' at the top of this forum? Thanks

[xYassassinYx]

anyone agreed yet lmao

[a.g.r.c]

I thought static web sites days were gone...

[traxor]

You'd be surprised, there's no point in an accountant having a dynamic website is there?

[socreative]

Here you go. There're five pages which I have tested it only in Firefox and IE (futher testing in other browsers is needed).
Of course it's not the final version, please feel free to suggest any changes to design you might think needed.
I was trying to go for more minimalistic design which is very popular nowadays. Having 6 more days till the deadline gives us enough time to think on the design and make this website really shine and stand out amongst competitors! Anyway, let me know what you think Mr Leafletman

http://socreative.tv/leaflet

bahahaha

[Sam G]

socreative - you make me chuckle!

And LMAO @ the address on the 'contact' page!

[MolotovRuss]

You're SO lucky someone like 'socreative' was kind enough to take a week out of work to build you a masterpiece, and all of his hard work validates!

[traxor]

Come on guys, don't be complete douchebags about it, this is Ben's forum and he doesn't want people being rude to new members.

[Dizi]

ratey, on Jun 16 2009, 18:53, said:

LOL - what a response eh! Thought it may have been an opporturnity for someone just setting up as a designer who has some basic skills - i have no knowledge of the web designing sector but certaintly for other sectors it is a struggle to show off your abilities in the first place before people are willing to pay for your time.

As i was mistaken I will consider offers for monetary award, failing which i'll go to bono as suggested.

Yeah there are a lot of people who sign up with the same thought, but I guess if you don't try you will never know if you could get something for nothing Its also a problem as people with no knowlege of the web design industry can have the misconception that creating a site is easy, what with all these drag and drop editors out there, however to create a site that meets web standards, the disability discrimination act, and also works across all major browsers (as they all render sites differently) isn't really as easy as it could seem to an outsider

Good luck in finding someone, there are a few really good designers on this forum, so hopefully one of them will be able to create something for you at a fair price

[sunwukung]

ratey, on Jun 16 2009, 14:30, said:

Due to the nature of the website i'm ideally looking for someone who is trying to build their portfolio and willing to undertake this project pro bono.

For that reason, ah'm oot.

Try this if you've got no cash:
http://www.wix.com/

[Acej]

I think it is unfair to set a week's worth of work for someone for no pay whatsoever.

That said, you may still find someone willing to take on this work for you for free, so I guess if you don't ask...

I am assuming you do not deliver your leaflets for free (Prices page)?

[Sam G]

Maybe you could distribute flyers for whoever you get to design your site for free?

[FizixRichard]

To be honest you will be lucky to find a designer to create a site for nothing, hence the replies.

I don't want to sound rude, but I do want to explain (as other have) why your getting the replies you are and give you a genuine tip for getting this done. If you want it for free ask a friend or approach your local college; call it work experience (but then when I was at college and uni we got paid reasonably when companies wanted student help, so again thats a long shot).

But out here, your amongst businesses and what your asking is akin to me going into a shop and saying "if you give me this stuff for free I'll do x menial task for you".

Or, me approaching a new furniture shop thats just opened and saying "because your new, give me that £2,500 solid oak table, for free... I'll tell everyone about you".

Or going to a school or college and asking for a part time student... with no pay... because they need to experience work.


When you think about what your asking it suddenly sounds ridiculous doesn't it? You know if you did any of the things above out in the real world, you'd be politely asked to leave or they would laugh thinking it was a joke... or more likely if they thought you were being serious, be offended. So why do people expect this industry to be any different?

Sure there are 13 year olds and everyday joes who do web design, but if they do it for free then they probably are right at the bottom of the pack, because anyone who takes any pride in their work won't run around doing it for nothing. Those that do are the equivelant to the guy who will cut your lawn for nothing and end up actually ploughing it like a field.

Thats why your getting the responses you are.

My honest advice is to either get a friend who you do favours for to do it; if you know someone who can. Or take a trip over to template monster... which is basically the website design equivelant of a £1 shop.

Premade, vanilla designs you can buy for under $100 and edit the text.

Downside is, hundereds if not thousands of other websites have the same design as you, they perform poorly in search engines and everyone will know that its a template due to the look of it (they are cheap and cheerful). You know, in much the same way as people can tell the difference between a good sofa and one you purchased for £150 from that cheap shop down the road.

If you want it for nothing, you can get it for next to nothing, but you get what you pay for so expect it to be poor. If you find the template sites aren't good enough, come back with with between what... £500 to £1,000 and you can get a basic website done.

But remember, if you buy a £50 table, don't expect it to stay standing if the kids decide to jump on it... you get the idea right?


P.S. Tongue in cheek time
If someone does do this for you, please PM me the details of the slave.

[Dizi]

you know what I find funny, this guy has said in post 11 that he is willing to pay for the site to be done, and yet he is still getting lectured about it originally asking for it to be done for free...poor guy, he realises his error and still gets shouted at...talk about unforgiving people.

[CityCM]

Have PM'd you.

[FizixRichard]

Dizi, on Jun 17 2009, 13:20, said:

you know what I find funny, this guy has said in post 11 that he is willing to pay for the site to be done, and yet he is still getting lectured about it originally asking for it to be done for free...poor guy, he realises his error and still gets shouted at...talk about unforgiving people.

He did?

I started to scan through after the first few replies. I guess we are an unforgiving bunch but it is getting tiring seeing the same thing over and over

[ratey]

FizixRichard, on Jun 17 2009, 16:16, said:

He did?

I started to scan through after the first few replies. I guess we are an unforgiving bunch but it is getting tiring seeing the same thing over and over

Thanks for those who have PM'd me - i'll be looking through the responses shortly, please close thread....

[mayhem design studio]

socreative, on 16 June 2009 - 11:23 PM, said:

Here you go. There're five pages which I have tested it only in Firefox and IE (futher testing in other browsers is needed).
Of course it's not the final version, please feel free to suggest any changes to design you might think needed.
I was trying to go for more minimalistic design which is very popular nowadays. Having 6 more days till the deadline gives us enough time to think on the design and make this website really shine and stand out amongst competitors! Anyway, let me know what you think Mr Leafletman

http://socreative.tv/leaflet

bahahaha

Loving the site, quality piece of art.... Bang on creative design. lol

[Richard King BWP]

socreative, on 16 June 2009 - 03:38 PM, said:

You obviously did your research. Not just the website for free but the SEO as well. I think i'm up for it, and also, do you know anyone that needs a free website as well, I'll do it !!!! I also enjoy doing a lot of things for free! Especially if I have deadlines for my free work! Who needs money anyway!

Hey man - that was spot on - can I re-use that image?

[MikeChipshop]

Although admittedly doing work for free gives any member here a right to baulk, even though some of the replies were a little over the top (yeah and some were funny:p), i think Ratey's replies were very mature and i liked the way they handled the situation. Well done mate.

[morgano]

Can we lock this thread? It's intrusive on those trying to find work and those trying to deliver work.

[jlspurling]

haha at least he tried!

nothing wrong with trying to take advantage of scared designers entering the freelance world desperate for that first job. in my opinion ratey just has a strong business head!

oh and by the way ratey, my response : not a chance in hell! ;-)

[Rhydian]

It just seems a bit suspicous is this guy the owner of the leaflet distrubuters? or did he take on the job of designing the website and wants other people to design it for him...for free/cheap?